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 Posted November 8th, 2011 08:10 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
This is a horrific story...and a lousy way to end what should've been a fairy tale finish to his 70 years in the game. Although, given his insistence on "never" retiring, it was more likely it wasn't going to end well....but not like this:

http://espn.go.com/college-football...stuns-community

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...moral-fall.html

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TigersRoarin84
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 Posted November 8th, 2011 12:18 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Even if he "legally" didn't do anything wrong, don't you question this a lot harder? I mean, you wouldn't let him bring kids on campus, you knew something was up. And even if he's your best friend, don't you back him into a corner and tell him he best start talking right now? And if you're the dude who saw it happening and kept on going with his day, what? How did you not at least call the police let alone **** that Sandusky guy up?

JoPa has basically lost everything he once had. People might feel sorry for him, all the good and just one mistake, but this mistake is more than a mistake, it's unthinkable really.

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 Posted November 8th, 2011 02:47 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
This is so unbelievably sickening. I'm shocked...but I guess not surprised when "institutions" think they can just sweep everything under the rug. Unfortunately, this football program is not the only example of this sort of thing. JoPa is now another symbol of cover up, rather than a coach.

http://www.thepostgame.com/features...ctims-speak-out

He's done and should be. No sympathy for this.

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 Posted November 8th, 2011 02:49 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yep. Done:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...rn=ncaaf-wp9466

http://espn.go.com/college-football...news-conference

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 Posted November 8th, 2011 03:46 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...rn=ncaaf-wp9465

This goes without comment.

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TigersRoarin84
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 Posted November 8th, 2011 05:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I read the grad jury testimonial thing to me. They should kill the program for a while. This disgusts me. Let me tell you and I'm not one for capital punishment nor am I violent man, but if that grad assistant was me, they'd still be cleaning Sandusky off of the floor in that shower.
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 Posted November 9th, 2011 11:54 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Done:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...pennstate-abuse

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 Posted November 9th, 2011 12:18 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Paterno obviously did the wrong thing--he passed the buck. But suppose someone told you that a long-time friend and colleague of yours was molesting kids. Would you call the cops right away? Probably not, and for a lot of reasons.

Nevertheless, SOMEBODY had to step up, and JoePa had the stature to do it.
   
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 Posted November 9th, 2011 01:16 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
1) Not soon enough.
2) Right away? No. Like I said elsewhere, I'd corner him somewhere and tell him he better start talking. I can't imagine there would be anything said that would get to not call the cops given what the testimony says though. They also didn't cover it up once, it was ongoing.

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 Posted November 9th, 2011 05:02 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
The thing is, in the era that this apparently happened, the Sandusky "coach" was obviously a larger than life and intimidating guy...the kids he molested and the witness were afraid of him, from the reports I've read. I just can't imagine the witness seeing what he saw and NOT intervening...and I can't imagine people who were aware of it passing the buck and letting the guy go about his business.
Paterno certainly shares some blame, but at this point, there's no sense in crucifying an old man. I mean, really, he hasn't "coached" in years...and I'm sure he can barely change his Depends on his own.

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 Posted November 9th, 2011 09:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
They crucified Jim Tressel for covering up some tattoos. Sorry, but this old man deserves to be relieved of his duties now, not when the season is over. He wasn't in Depends when this was happening... well, when it was happening to these victims.
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 Posted November 10th, 2011 12:43 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Paterno and the college prez fired immediately. As you say, TR, this is WAY worse than "recruiting violations" or anything of the like.

I hope they absolutely string up the Sandusky dude. That guy really needs to pay for what he's done.

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 Posted November 10th, 2011 12:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
He certainly does. I'm glad Penn State did the right thing here, but it sounds like it's going to be a gong show on Saturday against Nebraska. The students are not happy, neither it Paterno.

Sandusky is one disgusting individual, I'm all for innocent until proven guilty, but this looks like a matter of time if you read the testimony and findings. It's a gut wrenching read.

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 Posted November 10th, 2011 02:45 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Latest reports have him pimping out boys to wealthy doners and taking a forced "retirement" in exchange for cover up. Wow.

http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-s...ark-madden.html

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 Posted November 11th, 2011 12:24 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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joesparma wrote:
But suppose someone told you that a long-time friend and colleague of yours was molesting kids. Would you call the cops right away? Probably not, and for a lot of reasons.


Yes. Yes, I would.

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 Posted November 11th, 2011 05:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Reports I read today said that a janitor also witnessed Sandusky "in the act," and discussed it with his colleagues, but none of them reported it either for fear of losing their jobs.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...nterstitialskip

This is simply unbelievable that so many people were somewhat aware of what this guy was doing and, yet, he was able to cover it up and continue to do it.

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 Posted November 13th, 2011 06:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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jfine wrote:


Yes. Yes, I would.


Glad to hear it. We'd all like to think we would do the right thing, and damn the cost. But as a lawyer, Jfine, you know what a long limb you would be walking out on. It seems that no one, even JoPa, was willing to take the risk.
   
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 Posted January 22nd, 2012 11:00 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Sorry...I don't feel the outpouring of grief over Paterno. He was a successful football coach over along period of time, and I wish him or his family no ill will, but he was not an innovator and has little "football" legacy. In fact, PSUs legacy as "Linebacker U" was mainly attributed to Sandusky.
As for "life," the man failed to stand up for what was right when confronted with the dilemma of his assistant allegedly molesting innocent kids, instead allowing power & privelege to cover up for his "friend" at the expense of future victims. Because of his silence, more innocent kids suffered & that more than trumps any achievements on a football field.

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