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 Posted June 8th, 2010 01:36 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
With all the talk about Everett and Laird at the bottom of the order, many discussions just completely skip our turd at third...most likely out of exasperation that we seem to be unable to rid ourselves of him.

Why the heck is this guy not our third baseman right now? http://www.examiner.com/x-37791-Buf...ridiculous-tear

Couple this with the fact that Polly is hitting .313 with 5 knocks for the Phils and I'm pissed off all over again.

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 Posted June 8th, 2010 02:21 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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With all the talk about Everett and Laird at the bottom of the order, many discussions just completely skip our turd at third...most likely out of exasperation that we seem to be unable to rid ourselves of him.

Why the heck is this guy not our third baseman right now? http://www.examiner.com/x-37791-Buf...ridiculous-tear

Couple this with the fact that Polly is hitting .313 with 5 knocks for the Phils and I'm pissed off all over again.


Probably because Hessman's career batting average is .100 points lower than what he's currently hitting. But then again, we all know what Krotchy's numbers are. But also I might point out that Hessman's stints in the big leagues haven't exactly screamed call him up. He was a homer or strike out guy.

Krotchy's release was long overdue. He should have been cut about six years ago, comepletely out of baseball by now, and where he belongs bagging groceries at a Krogers.
   
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 Posted June 9th, 2010 12:09 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Probably because Hessman's career batting average is .100 points lower than what he's currently hitting. But then again, we all know what Krotchy's numbers are. But also I might point out that Hessman's stints in the big leagues haven't exactly screamed call him up. He was a homer or strike out guy.


...and Inge is a strikeout guy without the homers nearly as often.
Fact of the matter is, Hessman plays good D and hits dingers. His career minor league average, HR ratio and OPS are all better than Inge.
He can certainly hit .250 with REAL power that would be superior to what we've had in the poster child hitting .230 with a homer every 36 ABs.

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 Posted July 13th, 2010 05:38 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Extension?

http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/201...ers_shou_3.html

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 Posted July 14th, 2010 10:01 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Henning is in favor of keeping him, of course:

http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...336/OPINION0322

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 Posted July 15th, 2010 06:24 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Henning is in favor of keeping him, of course:

http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...336/OPINION0322


No, not Henning. Jeez. If we paid him utility player money and played him as a utility player, I might consider keeping him. But he'd just bitch the whole time about how someone stole his spot, so please, set sail on good ship GTFO Brandon.

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 Posted July 18th, 2010 01:28 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Considering the total lack of effort that was put forward to bring back Polanco at the end of last season I will be irate if we don't send this jobber packing.
Krotchy's release was long overdue. He should have been cut about six years ago, comepletely out of baseball by now, and where he belongs bagging groceries at a Krogers.
   
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 Posted July 19th, 2010 10:13 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Here's that trip to the DL we've all been dreaming about all season. Hopefully, we've seen the last of this loser.
Krotchy's release was long overdue. He should have been cut about six years ago, comepletely out of baseball by now, and where he belongs bagging groceries at a Krogers.
   
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 Posted July 20th, 2010 09:45 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
The problem is that we really don't have a good candidate in-house to replace him, especially after letting Hessman go.

One option, is to bring up Dlugach, along with Worth, and move Carlos back to third.

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 Posted July 20th, 2010 12:00 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
My goodness...he absolutely LOVES Inge, without sense of reality. Amazing.

http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...ly-hurts-Tigers

Ignoring the fact that Inge's defense is very average this year, the guy hasn't been in the top five in UZR since 2006 and John Dewan's Fielding Bible has him ranked 10th this season.
While his approach has been better at the plate since he started using right field a bit, he pulls the same routine every season with a couple good months before the annual late season swoon back to his career norms.

As predicted, Rod Allen was discussing him being "close" to his 1000th career hit the other night...while ignoring the fact that he achieved his 1000th career whiff months ago.

The biggest problem with his injury is that the Tigers have no backup plan. For YEARS, they've ignored other options at third and are now paying the price for letting Hessman go (he's still a good glove, is hitting .293 in the Mets organization at the moment and has 329 HR over 10 minor league seasons) and retreating from any possibilities outside the organization.

Looks like they'll be bringing Sizemore up and moving Carlos back to 3rd.

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 Posted July 20th, 2010 01:00 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Pretty much have to move Guillen back to third, don't we? There's no other logical alternative because we ignored third for so long. Would be nice to have Polly to move over there.

Props to Guillen, doing exactly what Inge never did, accept his position and play it. I know he bitched a bit when they wanted to move him to first, but he just said they better replace him with an all-star. Now he gets moved around like a utility guy and just goes about his business. How 'bout that Inge?

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 Posted July 20th, 2010 02:02 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Mann I miss Polly. He's .313/5/29 for the Phils and playing a stellar third.

Guillen will be fine at third...but defense is going to suffer with Sizemore at second.

Looks like that's what they're going to do:
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.s...liever_cas.html

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 Posted July 20th, 2010 02:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
At the moment it looks like they're doing nothing about the third base situation. Opting for extra bullpen help instead.
http://www.freep.com/article/201007...ef-pitcher-Fien


I sort of figured that Sizemore might be called back up because he's been hitting .333 in the minors. Course we all recall what he hit in the big leagues: Inge type numbers of .206.

I honestly think that we have been in need of another bat before the trade deadline and I hope that this forces the Tigers to do just that and get somebody who can hit and play the infield. Prefferably third base. Hmmm....wonder if the Phillies will part with Polanco again.

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 Posted July 20th, 2010 02:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Mann I miss Polly. He's .313/5/29 for the Phils and playing a stellar third.

Guillen will be fine at third...but defense is going to suffer with Sizemore at second.

Looks like that's what they're going to do:
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.s...liever_cas.html


Makes sense for now. Man I hope we make a trade soon.

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 Posted July 20th, 2010 04:46 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well...I guess Carlos isn't moving:

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.s...ules_out_c.html

Idiot.

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 Posted July 21st, 2010 04:37 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I suppose if you're going to live with "bad defense," then it's better at third than second:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp...rtnerId=rss_det

Sizemore is recalled

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 Posted July 21st, 2010 06:14 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
So Sizemore is going to third. Odd. Guillen would be fine there and I think would make that transition a lot easier, but hey, I'm just an armchair manager.
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 Posted July 21st, 2010 09:21 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I'm kind of glad that they didn't just expect Carlos to move again and took into consideration that he's fine where he is at.
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 Posted August 3rd, 2010 03:04 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
This SOB is going to be back before you know it, forcing Jhonny to move to SS (where he shouldn't be). And Brandon will have his built in excuse for hitting .150 in the second half as he "plays through injury." Blah-blah.

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.s...on_inge_be.html

Let Inge rot. The open market will determine his value, despite what all the #15 fans say. Leave Paralta at third.

This sux.

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 Posted August 3rd, 2010 06:43 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Seriously. Peralta at third, screw Inge. In the Show he signed for four million over two years (two per) with not me. So long sucker, hope real life follows suit.
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 Posted August 5th, 2010 11:06 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I haven't been on here in about a month. Too much to do: bought a new house, moved in, trying to sell the old one, got promoted at work, mo money, mo problems. The worst part about this, J-bag or I-suck, is that our hopes for next year rest with DD. Will he sign a vet w/ power or average to fill 3B? Will he be stupid enough to bring in a 'Modano' type player like Jeter and overpay? This season is looooong gone, as Ernie used to say, but there's a lot to be hopeful for next year. EXCEPT that somehow DD will F it up.
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 Posted August 5th, 2010 11:16 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Here's the point with third:

We know what Inge is and what he can do. He's an average to slightly above average defensive player and a below average offensive player. You only bring him back at very favorable $$ terms. If he wants to get paid similar or more, let him walk. In fact, kick his **s out the door.

We don't know what Paralta has left in the tank, although we DO know that he's no longer a quality defensive SS. Play him at third to determine whether we want to exercise his option for next season. If he's playing a tougher defensive position, his offensive numbers will likely suffer a bit, rather than at third, where he's been decent defensively.

We also need to see the kids as we finish out a "lost" season. Let's see what Rhymes, etc. can do rather than taking away their ABs and time to satisfy Inge's ego. We need to determine which among them are genuine keepers, trade chips or non-starters.

The worst crime of the entire Inge era is that we've completely failed to develop any backup plans or prospects at third, especially once we let Hessmann leave the organization.

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 Posted August 5th, 2010 11:30 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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...especially once we let Hessmann leave the organization.


Hess was your Scott Rolan prototype. What was he, like 6' 7"?

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 Posted August 13th, 2010 09:05 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well...the queen made a bit of drama over what may or may not have been "something"...

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.s...randon_i_4.html

Priceless. After all the fuss again this year over his improvement - and I'll admit I've been happy with his occasional use of an inside-out swing this year - he's still only .255/6/42 for a "slugger," to quote Mr. Henning.

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 Posted August 18th, 2010 01:53 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Although Ian is barely a "media" member, as the former blogger at Bless You Boys, this is a long-overdue sentiment in print:

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.s..._is_the_ri.html

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 Posted August 18th, 2010 10:46 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Suddenly, this is a hot topic:

http://www.itsalwayssunnyindetroit....hould-they.html

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2010/8/...-be-playing-his

Even Henning, while not advocating the move, sees the sense in it:
http://detnews.com/article/20100818...0341/1129/rss15

My only complaint on most of these is that Peralta isn't being considered first as his replacement. He's obviously a better 3B than SS, and we've already let a Gold Glover in Polanco slip away, much less passing on other opportunities over the past few years.

Be done with him!

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 Posted August 25th, 2010 09:42 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Well, quite a celebration of Mr. Inge's 1000th career hit last night. I dont' seem to remember the same media attention back in April as he approached #1000K.

He's actually under his career rate since, as he needed 77 hits at the time, yet has only 1069 K's now.

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 Posted August 26th, 2010 04:08 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I didn't even pay attention. I knew he was close, but man that is ridiculous. 1069 Ks to 1000 hits. He did have a pretty decent stretch going for a while though, really got his average up, to .261? Ouch.
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I didn't even pay attention. I knew he was close, but man that is ridiculous. 1069 Ks to 1000 hits. He did have a pretty decent stretch going for a while though, really got his average up, to .261? Ouch.


Career average still .238. And this year is his second best ever career OPS+ at an even 100 (that's exactly "average" for anyone not familiar with the stat). His best is 109.

Meanwhile, Casey Blake, who could have been had for a bag of peanuts a few seasons ago, has homered today for the Dodgers in Milwaukee. Jus' sayin'...

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Career average still .238. And this year is his second best ever career OPS+ at an even 100 (that's exactly "average" for anyone not familiar with the stat). His best is 109.

Meanwhile, Casey Blake, who could have been had for a bag of peanuts a few seasons ago, has homered today for the Dodgers in Milwaukee. Jus' sayin'...


Preaching to the choir. Anyone can do what Inge does and do it for less. It'd be nice to give someone else a change to see what they can do.

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