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Posted 25th August 2010 15:14 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-10773893

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Posted 7th September 2010 14:53 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I've given up on what's good for you and what's bad for you to be honest. It seems to change on a weekly basis.

My theory is, eat a balanced variety of just about everything and you should be okay.
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Posted 7th September 2010 15:08 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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My theory is, eat a balanced variety of just about everything and you should be okay.





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Posted 7th September 2010 15:11 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I've been watching the 3 part show that goes with this article. Its been very interesting and its certainly changed my views on E numbers by giving me much more infomation on them. Until now the only infomation i've seen on E numbers is that they are all bad, but thats far from true.
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Posted 7th September 2010 15:12 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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My theory is, eat a balanced variety of just about everything and you should be okay.


But you're fat!

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But you're fat!


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I'm one of the rare sorts that reads every box that I put in my basket from the grocery store. I mean I spend a lot of time comparing each brand of an item.

My approach is that, most of everything on the shelf that is processed is bad for you. I avoid that type of food for the most part. What I do purchase in a can or box, I look for the biggest problems, sodium, MSG, saturated fats, and the worst one - corn syrup. If those are absent or in the case of sodium, low, I'll likely buy it.

But when I buy from the produce and whole foods sections, for the most part I am eating like a king.
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Posted 24th September 2010 08:28 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I try to do that too, Ron. But sometimes I find it confusing and something that I have noticed here in the UK is that not all products state what is in them. I thought they had too.
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Posted 24th September 2010 08:45 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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I try to do that too, Ron. But sometimes I find it confusing and something that I have noticed here in the UK is that not all products state what is in them. I thought they had too.


I think they do have to - they don't need to say what proportion it is, but it does have to be in order with the biggest ingredient first.



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I think they do have to - they don't need to say what proportion it is, but it does have to be in order with the biggest ingredient first.


I bought some plain jogurt a few weeks ago and it didn't list the ingredients anywhere. I know that sounds daft, because obviously it had jogurt in it, but it had such a sweet taste that I couldn't believe it didn't contain sugar or some kind of sweetening agent.


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I'm one of the rare sorts that reads every box that I put in my basket from the grocery store. I mean I spend a lot of time comparing each brand of an item.

My approach is that, most of everything on the shelf that is processed is bad for you. I avoid that type of food for the most part. What I do purchase in a can or box, I look for the biggest problems, sodium, MSG, saturated fats, and the worst one - corn syrup. If those are absent or in the case of sodium, low, I'll likely buy it.

But when I buy from the produce and whole foods sections, for the most part I am eating like a king.


MSG isnt bad for you, thats a myth. They covered that in the show. The MS is mono-sodium which is salt, so as long as thats in moderation thats not bad for you, the G is gultimate which is found naturally in foodstuffs such as paramsan, tommato's, peppers etc. So whe people say i cant eat chinese food cause its got MSG in if its the MSG they are allergic too they cant eat italian food either. They very well may have a reaction to chinese food, but its not the MSG.
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My biggest pet hate with food labelling is on the cover where they show fat and salt content they might say 5g or whatever, then in small print it will say per 1/8 of the portion. Thats misleading i think. They should show the content for the ENTIRE jar/tin etc
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My biggest pet hate with food labelling is on the cover where they show fat and salt content they might say 5g or whatever, then in small print it will say per 1/8 of the portion. Thats misleading i think. They should show the content for the ENTIRE jar/tin etc


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My biggest pet hate with food labelling is on the cover where they show fat and salt content they might say 5g or whatever, then in small print it will say per 1/8 of the portion. Thats misleading i think. They should show the content for the ENTIRE jar/tin etc


Don't eat the ENTIRE jar/tin then.



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Yeah, I've just had a tin of soup and the labelling on the front is 'per serving' but it's quite confusing because they classify a serving as half a can, whereas most people have a whole can if it's the main part of the meal.

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Posted 24th September 2010 13:59 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Who would eat half a tin of soup?.

Most things are labelled like that and yes it is annoying.
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Don't eat the ENTIRE jar/tin then.


who eats 1/8th of something though? plus i'm a growing lad
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who eats 1/8th of something though? plus i'm a growing lad


Haha, get your 7 mates round and share a tin of soup.
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My biggest pet hate with food labelling is on the cover where they show fat and salt content they might say 5g or whatever, then in small print it will say per 1/8 of the portion. Thats misleading i think. They should show the content for the ENTIRE jar/tin etc

But surely then you need to divide the figure given by the size of the tin. In other words, if you buy a 'family size' tin of beans that's 2.5 times as big as a normal tin, using your system, you'd have to take the figure shown and divide it by 2.5 to compare it to another brand that doesn't come in family size tins - else you're not comparing like with like ...?

Wouldn't you be better of with a figure of 5g per kg, or a percentage, or some such, so that you can then compare like with like ....?


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But surely then you need to divide the figure given by the size of the tin. In other words, if you buy a 'family size' tin of beans that's 2.5 times as big as a normal tin, using your system, you'd have to take the figure shown and divide it by 2.5 to compare it to another brand that doesn't come in family size tins - else you're not comparing like with like ...?

Wouldn't you be better of with a figure of 5g per kg, or a percentage, or some such, so that you can then compare like with like ....?




fine, i would be happy with a per kilo assesment as long as all brands had the same system. As it stands some will do per 1/4 some will do per 1/2 and others will do per serving and decide what the serving should be, it makes it difficult to compare. I still think per unit would be better though.

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But surely then you need to divide the figure given by the size of the tin. In other words, if you buy a 'family size' tin of beans that's 2.5 times as big as a normal tin, using your system, you'd have to take the figure shown and divide it by 2.5 to compare it to another brand that doesn't come in family size tins - else you're not comparing like with like ...?

Wouldn't you be better of with a figure of 5g per kg, or a percentage, or some such, so that you can then compare like with like ....?




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fine, i would be happy with a per kilo assesment as long as all brands had the same system. As it stands some will do per 1/4 some will do per 1/2 and others will do per serving and decide what the serving should be, it makes it difficult to compare. I still think per unit would be better though.

I agree it would be helped if quantities were more standard, but I don't think the container size should come into the equation.


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Posted 24th September 2010 14:14 IP Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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fine, i would be happy with a per kilo assesment as long as all brands had the same system. As it stands some will do per 1/4 some will do per 1/2 and others will do per serving and decide what the serving should be, it makes it difficult to compare. I still think per unit would be better though.



I agree.

They do it on pasta, like crosse and blackwell, and they make out like there's two servings in it. Er, no way.

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I agree.

They do it on pasta, like crosse and blackwell, and they make out like there's two servings in it. Er, no way.


What do you mean pasta? In a tin?


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Tinned spaghetti bolognese is lush.

Normal tinned spaghetti, not so good.
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thats well lazy!
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Tinned spaghetti bolognese is lush.

Normal tinned spaghetti, not so good.


Save that for when you have no more teeth.

I watched them making sausages on TV last night Disgusting! BBC 3 (I think it was a repeat)

Everyone should watch those programmes so that they really know what they are eating.


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Save that for when you have no more teeth.

I watched them making sausages on TV last night Disgusting! BBC 3 (I think it was a repeat)

Everyone should watch those programmes so that they really know what they are eating.




hot dog sausages are the worst. They use mechanically recoved meat for that. Basically they jet wash a carcus and all the bits that come off get pressed together to make a hot dog. Mmmm, tasty!

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hot dog sausages are the worst. They use mechanically recoved meat for that. Basically they jet wash a carcus and all the bits that come off get pressed together to make a hot dog. Mmmm, tasty!




They were selling "bangers" because there was so little meat in them that they are not allowed to call them sausages.

And the chicken kiev (?) had about 5% meat, the rest was all skin and fat and alsorts.

I thought of kebabs whilst watching that programme.


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