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OSU Josh
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 06:07 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
First trip north of the border for the Tribe this year

Tue 7:05 Jimenez (5-4) vs Smyly (2-1)
Wed 7:05 Gomez (3-4) vs Scherzer (5-3)
Thu 1:05 Lowe (7-3) vs Porcello (3-4)
   
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 06:31 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
At least they won't face Verlander even though it won't matter. Will they win the first and then lose the next two? That's been the pattern lately.
   
BHSalum
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 08:28 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Actually, the three pitching this upcoming series for Detroit have done better lately than Verlander over his last three games.
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hafner_for_mvp
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 08:39 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Talk about a blah slate of pitching match ups for the two teams that were suppose to sit atop this division.

They all are so neutral that I could see either team sweeping.

Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.

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bbmind
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 09:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Good news for Detroit they don't have to pitch Verlander against the Tribe. What is he 5 and 4? Give a pitcher the MVP and a dumb commercial and they fall apart. Pitching for a team that has only 1 more AL Central title than KC who has zero can't be easy.
That's why I'm bbmind.
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Pronkville
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 10:40 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well now that he has finally spoken...Tigers sweep the Tribe.
   
BHSalum
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 Posted June 3rd, 2012 11:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
One year ago on this date, JV's record was 5-4.
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tigeralum01
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Carlos Santana will DH tonight for the Lake County Captains in Eastlake vs Fort Wayne (7PM)
   
Ron Mexico
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the draft starts today and for all the complaints about the Dolans and not spending money on free agents the Indians biggest failure since John Hart stepped down is their innability to draft and develope major league players. of the Indians current roster Petsano, Sipp, Raffy Perez, Gomez, Kipinis, Tomlin, Barnes and Chisenhall are the players they draft/signed and developed all the way through the monors. of that group Chisenhall is the only 1st rd guy and he just got called up and it unproven....Sipp couldn't get me out..Barnes is yet to prove himself....Tomlin, Pestano, and Gomez seem ok but nothing special, Perez was inconsistant and now hurt...really at this point Kipnis is the only guy who seems to have a lot of potential but we shall see what Chisenhall becomes

since Shapiro took over as GM in 01 and now into the Antonetti years the Indians 1st rd picks
Dan Dehnam
Allan Horne
JD Martin
Mike Conroy
Jeremy Guthrie
Matt Whitney
Micah Schilling
Michael Aubrey
Brad Snyder
Adam Miller
Jeremy Sowers
Trevor Crowe
John Drennan
David Huff
Beau Mills
Lonnie Chisenhall
Alex White
Drew Pomeranz
Francisco Lindor

a small market organization like the Indians must do a better job of drafting and developing it's own players if they want to stay competitive...it is sad how bad they have been

I think we found Kyrie Irving
   
NEWARKCATHOLICFAN
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Tigers take two of three.

I think the Tribe will shoot their wad in one game and then go back to wear they have been of late.

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bbmind
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One year ago today he was 5-4. So what past performance doesn't guarantee future results. Tigers still the Tigers, one more AL Central Title than KC who has zero.
That's why I'm bbmind.
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Streak23
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NCF vs BBmind
   
BHSalum
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"One year ago today he was 5-4. So what past performance doesn't guarantee future results."

That also explains why Cleveland hasn't won a World Series since 1948, right?

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mr.know it all
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 Posted June 4th, 2012 10:09 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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One year ago today he was 5-4. So what past performance doesn't guarantee future results. Tigers still the Tigers, one more AL Central Title than KC who has zero.


..even the 5-4 Verlander is better than anything the tribe has at this point.


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NEWARKCATHOLICFAN
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 04:40 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Tribe has a great shot I.M.O. to win this match up
Thu 1:05 Lowe (7-3) vs Porcello (3-4)

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Detroit is throwing Casey Crosby Thursday.

Looks good on paper...

...but he throws from the left handed position. So it probably isn't.

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Cleveland Indians ‏@tribeinsider
Carlos Santana was 1-for-4 w/a 2-run HR tonight in Lake County's 4-3 win over Ft Wayne.
   
hafner_for_mvp
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Carlos is expected to rejoin the team tonight. And it appears as though there is a 50/50 chance he will start. He will be available though regardless.

Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.

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tigeralum01
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 08:11 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
hopefully a shot in the arm for the tribe
   
tigeralum01
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 12:41 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
SPLITS IP H R ER BB SO WHIP ERA
Away 24.0 39 27 24 23 16 2.58 9.00

Ubaldo.. nuff said
   
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 02:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
http://espncleveland.com/common/mor...49&post_id=1228
   
quiz
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NEWARKCATHOLICFAN wrote:
Tigers take two of three.

I think the Tribe will shoot their wad in one game and then go back to wear they have been of late.



I would be amazed if the Indians win even one. I can see them being swept. There is no spark, no pride in at one time being in first space.
   
hafner_for_mvp
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 08:53 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Ubaldo has been excellent tonight.


Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.

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mr.know it all
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 08:55 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
love watching Ubaldo deal when he has A game like he has tonight.

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hafner_for_mvp
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 09:03 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
He has control of all his pitches.

Down 3-1 and comes back to strike out Laird. That is something we haven't saw all season.

Finish the 7th and turn it over to Pestano and Perez.

Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.

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hafner_for_mvp
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 09:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Ubaldo departs after 6.2.

EXCELLENT performance. Only one walk and it was his last batter of the game.

Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.

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 Posted June 5th, 2012 09:07 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I was listening to the radio and someone mentioned that he has this weird hitch in his delivery where he takes his glove to his face as soon as he releases the pitch as if he might be afraid to get line drived by a hit ball.

I wonder if this holds some truth and why he struggles the way he does. I cannot believe a guy can be so dominate at a young age and then all of a sudden just be awful.
   
hafner_for_mvp
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 09:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
There was talk that some inside the organization thought he may have been tipping his pitches.

I didn't really see anything different in terms of release point or basic mechanics, but he was much more fluid tonight and didn't overthrow like he has a tendency to.


Give a man a fish, he eats for a night. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.

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mr.know it all
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 Posted June 5th, 2012 09:21 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Ubaldo looked awful tonight...awful-ly good ....

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 Posted June 5th, 2012 09:27 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
He eliminated the walks which is what helped him out big time. Love that.

He also fired a lot of fastballs and mixed in the off speed stuff occasionally. Fantastic start.
   



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