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Pronkville
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 Posted November 18th, 2010 08:21 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
There will be discussions of adding more playoff teams to the post-season allowing for 2 wild cards and I think they said the division winner to have a first round bye.

The first round would be a best of 3 series.

What does everyone think about this, like it or dislike. I love the idea, I think it gives smaller market teams a chance to reach the post-season such as Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, Etc...
   
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 Posted November 18th, 2010 09:43 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It's fine, it's a lock to happen. The discussions are basically over.

6 teams will have byes.

4 teams will play each other in best of 3.

Should be fine. Season is ending next year in the middle of the week and they will transtion to weekend playoffs I believe so the 2nd Round will start roughly when the 1st Round have in the recent past so this won't "add" to the calendar.

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 Posted November 18th, 2010 09:47 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
BBMind, now you can make fun of Detroit even more because they have a better chance now due to a change in the system and they still won't get it done!

LOL....
   
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 Posted November 18th, 2010 09:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
True but they have made it as a WC since the AL Central started then lost in the WS to an 83-win team. But, excellent point I'm sure the bandwagoners will love me again next Spring when I point out their deficiencies and are correct.......again.
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OSU Josh
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 Posted November 18th, 2010 10:02 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
so if that system had been in place at the end of 2010's regular season, it would have looked like this:

AL

Round 1:

BOS vs NYY

ALDS:

MIN vs Round 1 winner
TB vs TEX

NL

Round 1:

ATL vs SD

NLDS:

SF vs Round 1 winner (if ATL)
PHI vs CIN

or

PHI vs Round 1 winner (if SD)
SF vs CIN

correct?


(Edited by OSU Josh)
   
Ron Mexico
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 Posted November 19th, 2010 01:16 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I like the idea of adding to the playoffs but I am not crazy about giving teams byes. baseball is such a rhythm sport that I think it will hurt the quality of play to have teams sit for a week and wait for a 3 game series to end. at the same time having 8 teams from each league make the playoffs like the NBA or NHL so there aren't byes lets in some bad teams. I guess 6 teams with a bye is the way to go
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 Posted November 19th, 2010 02:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Ron Mexico wrote:
I like the idea of adding to the playoffs but I am not crazy about giving teams byes. baseball is such a rhythm sport that I think it will hurt the quality of play to have teams sit for a week and wait for a 3 game series to end. at the same time having 8 teams from each league make the playoffs like the NBA or NHL so there aren't byes lets in some bad teams. I guess 6 teams with a bye is the way to go


It would be five total teams with the division winners receiving a bye. With the two wild card teams meeting in a best of three to determine the Division series match ups.

I agree though I think it's a great idea. Almost every year there is a team left left at home (usually the American League) that is good enough to compete for a World Series title. The proposal here would eliminate that. And I agree that I'm not real fond of the bye either but it's the only way it can work with five teams in each league.

And hey, where was this in 05' when the Indians were arguably the best team in baseball from Mid June on?!?!. We sure could have used it then! LOL.

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 Posted November 19th, 2010 02:08 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Quote:
OSU Josh wrote:
so if that system had been in place at the end of 2010's regular season, it would have looked like this:

AL

Round 1:

BOS vs NYY

ALDS:

MIN vs Round 1 winner
TB vs TEX

NL

Round 1:

ATL vs SD

NLDS:

SF vs Round 1 winner (if ATL)
PHI vs CIN

or

PHI vs Round 1 winner (if SD)
SF vs CIN

correct?


(Edited by OSU Josh)



If we understanding it correctly then yes that looks right.


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 Posted November 21st, 2010 07:42 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post

I'm not a big fan of this idea.

My main complaint would be this scenario:

Yankees 90-72
Devil rays 87-75
Angels 92-70
Tigers 101-61
Indians 99-63

Cleveland has to play Tampa Bay in a 3-game series? Not fair.
I say just drop the division titles and take the 5 best records in the AL and seed accordingly. I guess they would have to balance the schedules but I don't see a big problem with that.

Oh....and drop the DH.




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 Posted November 21st, 2010 08:04 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Can't drop the divisions until KC and Detroit break their tie at 0.
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 Posted November 21st, 2010 09:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Why not? Cleveland got out of the AL East with no titles.
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 Posted November 21st, 2010 09:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
ha

You see my point though.
Indians bust their butt for 162 games and finish with the 2nd best record in the league.
Then they have to play a BS 3-games series where anything can happen....while the 3rd & 4th place teams sit home and set up their rotations.
And because the Indians were trying to win the central they may have to throw a #3 or #4 pitcher against the Devil Rays #1 or #2

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 Posted November 23rd, 2010 04:54 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
dropping divisions and just taking the top 5 overall records does help teams burried in the AL East behind the Yankees and Red Sox due to spending..if that were the case I would take the top 6 with the 2 best records getting a bye. in 2010 the AL playoffs would have been

Rays
Yanks
Twins
Rangers
Red Sux
White Sux

I guess you go Twins vs WS and Rangers vs RS and then match up in next round based on record of series winners

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 Posted November 18th, 2011 10:09 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
well it looks like they are moving to the new playoff format quickly...maybe as soon as this upcoming season. last I heard the 1st round between the 2 wild card teams would just be a one game playoff for now...although I would say if you are going to do it should be at least a 3 game series.

also on the table is the 2 15 team league ideas with the Astros flipping to the AL

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 Posted November 18th, 2011 11:45 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Apparently, the sale of the Astros is contingent upon the new owners agreeing to the move of the team to the AL West.
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OSU Josh
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 Posted November 18th, 2011 12:21 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7...le-approved-mlb

This ESPN article states that the Astros sale is final and they will begin play in the AL in 2013.

Good to see that the divisions will finally be equal in size. And I like the idea of spreading out the interleague play throughout the whole season. I hope that they use that as an opportunity to showcase a different "battle of (insert city/state)" matchup each week instead of having them all at the same time like they do now.
   
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 Posted November 18th, 2011 06:12 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I also like the idea of spreading the inter league play out. as a fan of an AL team those road trips to NL cities where you may have to sit your DH for 9 straight games annoys me

I really think they should make the rules universal...either all teams us a DH or no one does for the entire season. my guess is the outcome would be the NL would adopt the DH as the union wouldn't be happy with DHs losing their jobs...and American league teams wouldn't like the idea of being stuck with a DHs big contract who know just becomes a pinch hitter

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