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Redmen Football 32
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Posted November 5th, 2009 07:03 AM IP

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XBellevueplayar wrote:

One name for ya..... Curt Oddo = strong defense

I agree with that "X"! How long did Curt coach with Meador. I'm sure he learned alot back then. Curt is now with Sandusky correct?

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Posted November 6th, 2009 08:45 AM IP

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XBellevueplayar wrote:
One name for ya..... Curt Oddo = strong defense

When did he leave?

jake Administrator Posts: 22021 Registered: Jun 2005	Posted November 6th, 2009 08:46 AM IP I think 1998 was his last year at Bellevue. 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2009 World Champions! Will the Lakers Repeat? YES!

mr.know it all
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Posted November 6th, 2009 05:08 PM IP

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redskinfan04 wrote:
A large part of Bellevue's struggles on defense were just a flat out lack of speed. The linebacker's were too slow too get to the point of attack and didnt posses the speed needed to recover when forced into coverage or they made a mistake on their initial angle to the ball carrier.

Bellevue's success on offense was misleading in many respect's because of the nature of the offense. You give average play maker's to watson and he's good enough to make them better and consequently make the offense better than it otherwise would be.

Take Watson out of the equation on offense and well Bellevue's offense wouldnt have been very good.

your calling foos(whose only a soph.) an average play-maker. Obviously, you've never seen him play. This kid has great size, speed, , and played the whole year after dislocating his shoulder two weeks before the first game. Oh, by the way, he lead the area in receiving yards and rec. tds. -enough said
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Blodg
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Posted November 6th, 2009 07:45 PM IP

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mr.know it all wrote:

your calling foos(whose only a soph.) an average play-maker. Obviously, you've never seen him play. This kid has great size, speed, , and played the whole year after dislocating his shoulder two weeks before the first game. Oh, by the way, he lead the area in receiving yards and rec. tds. -enough said
(Edited by mr.know it all)

Uh he was 2nd behind Kneeskern in TD's so he did not lead the area in that respect. I have seen Foos play and he is a good player. I believe what redskin was saying is that if he was not on a team that threw the ball a bazillion times a game along with Watson at QB his numbers would have been lower. I would not be suprised to see his receptions go down next year without Watson.

BMOCYALL
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Posted November 7th, 2009 10:00 AM IP

Since we're talking Offense, from the start of the season everyone knew Bellevue needed to outscore everyone to come out on the win side , however stats don't lie, Bellevue has been nothing short of below average on the defensive side of the ball for years.The adjustments , or lack of them, in the second half of games is very evident. plus, whoever is calling plays up in the booth needs to loosen up.I realize Coach N has the last word but he is getting too predictable. As for Foos , if he plays bball , keep an eye on him , he is one of the most fundamentally sound players to come through the system in years.

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B-Town Pride All-District Posts: 454 Registered: Apr 2008	Posted November 8th, 2009 10:29 AM IP Foos will not be playing bball...having shoulder surgery, again.

RedWarrior
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Posted November 11th, 2009 09:16 PM IP

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Blodg wrote:

Uh he was 2nd behind Kneeskern in TD's so he did not lead the area in that respect. I have seen Foos play and he is a good player. I believe what redskin was saying is that if he was not on a team that threw the ball a bazillion times a game along with Watson at QB his numbers would have been lower. I would not be suprised to see his receptions go down next year without Watson.

If Kneeskern wasent 6' 4'' hed never play football. If bellevue was D-IV they make the playoffs. If Bellevue had Kneeskern he'd be 10 times the player he was. My point is you can if this untill the world ends. Miles foos was a sophmore, and was, is, and will continue to be one of the top playmakers at WR in the NOL. And for the record, i'll take foo's almost 1000 yards , reliable hands, and clutch preformaces over kneeskerns few big playes here and there any day.

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RedWarrior
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Posted November 11th, 2009 09:18 PM IP

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BMOCYALL wrote:
Since we're talking Offense, from the start of the season everyone knew Bellevue needed to outscore everyone to come out on the win side , however stats don't lie, Bellevue has been nothing short of below average on the defensive side of the ball for years.The adjustments , or lack of them, in the second half of games is very evident. plus, whoever is calling plays up in the booth needs to loosen up.I realize Coach N has the last word but he is getting too predictable. As for Foos , if he plays bball , keep an eye on him , he is one of the most fundamentally sound players to come through the system in years.

Coach N has no bearing on the defensive play calling. If youd like to point the finger at someone point it at a bad, inflexable styles of defense bellevue has ran.

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B-Town Pride All-District Posts: 454 Registered: Apr 2008	Posted November 11th, 2009 10:11 PM IP ^^^Give me a break.."Coach N has no bearing on the defensive play calling."? Coach N has his hand in everything. His minions do his calling.

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Posted November 12th, 2009 07:12 AM IP

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RedWarrior wrote:

Coach N has no bearing on the defensive play calling. If youd like to point the finger at someone point it at a bad, inflexable styles of defense bellevue has ran.

The Head Coach has the FINAL SAY ON ALL THINGS.

Nasonti would have to okay a coach running a 5-3 defense
Nasonti would have to okay a coach running a 3-3-5 defense
Nasonti would have to okay a coach that constantly plays Nickle prevent packages in goal line situations.

It all comes back to the Head Coach.

Seneca76
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Posted March 4th, 2010 12:14 PM IP

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RedWarrior wrote:

If Kneeskern wasent 6' 4'' hed never play football. If bellevue was D-IV they make the playoffs. If Bellevue had Kneeskern he'd be 10 times the player he was. My point is you can if this untill the world ends. Miles foos was a sophmore, and was, is, and will continue to be one of the top playmakers at WR in the NOL. And for the record, i'll take foo's almost 1000 yards , reliable hands, and clutch preformaces over kneeskerns few big playes here and there any day.

I would rather have the W's

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VikingFan
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Posted March 4th, 2010 03:12 PM IP

Um it took you four monthes to come up with that Seneca and that is the best you can do?? ha..

funny how basketball is almost over and the football thread is starting to light up.

nice article in paper about bellevue off season and lifting program. go redmen. as always looking forward to football season.

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GT96-15 All-County Posts: 201 Registered: Sep 2008	Posted March 4th, 2010 06:04 PM IP Galion had almost 400 yards rushing and over 500 yards of total offense. Has a Galion team ever put up that many points (53) or yards against Bellevue?

Brutus149 All-State Posts: 1032 Registered: Sep 2008	Posted March 4th, 2010 10:17 PM IP 53<69 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

Think Red All-Region Posts: 954 Registered: May 2009	Posted March 8th, 2010 07:30 PM IP Bellevue has had alot of great Defenses in the past and a fine game plan to go with it. There D has won alot of games in the past and to knock them for having a very young squad in 09 just isnt right. PENN.STATE (JO PA)

bbmind
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Posted March 9th, 2010 12:39 AM IP

^^^That would be true if all the talk before the season and after week 1 wasn't about how they would win the league. When the fans talk trash and the team doesn't back it up you have to deal with it on here.

That's why I'm bbmind.

8-17 in the last 25 for RR. Coach Tressel is 8-1 vs. Michigan with two of the next three at home so will be no worse than 10-2 vs. them in his first 12 as he's never lost to them at home. More than likely 11-1 but for argument's sake a possible 10-2. Michigan fans and those that like them from Ohio can't like the turnaround we've put on them.

BHSalum All-State Posts: 1818 Registered: Dec 2006	Posted March 9th, 2010 05:58 AM IP "When the fans talk trash and the team doesn't back it up you have to deal with it on here." Oh, the irony of it all! We're all behind our baseball team-- Go get 'em, Tigers!

Thehamburgler All-District Posts: 450 Registered: Nov 2005	Posted March 16th, 2010 12:37 PM IP what excuses will their be this upcoming year?

Think Red
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Posted March 16th, 2010 07:25 PM IP

Bellevue football at its best will be back no coaching problems here and these guys work around the clock to figure it all out to get better. Jeff Roth will be our QB and i look for him to play some D also. Miles Foos NOLs leading receiver will also be on both sides of the ball Jalen Santoro with very good speed can be to. Matt Seiger as strong as he can be continues to work he can be to. Bellevue has great history and with there 23 NOL titlers that leads the league and the most playoff wins as a NOL team and Regional titles to Bellevue wont rebuild (thats a bad word in Bellevue) they will just reload.

PENN.STATE (JO PA)

mr.know it all
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Posted March 17th, 2010 05:46 PM IP

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Thehamburgler wrote:
what excuses will their be this upcoming year?

what exactly are you talking about?

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mr.know it all
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Posted March 17th, 2010 05:54 PM IP

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Think Red wrote:
Bellevue football at its best will be back no coaching problems here and these guys work around the clock to figure it all out to get better. Jeff Roth will be our QB and i look for him to play some D also. Miles Foos NOLs leading receiver will also be on both sides of the ball Jalen Santoro with very good speed can be to. Matt Seiger as strong as he can be continues to work he can be to. Bellevue has great history and with there 23 NOL titlers that leads the league and the most playoff wins as a NOL team and Regional titles to Bellevue wont rebuild (thats a bad word in Bellevue) they will just reload.

with 8 or 9 returning lettermen on def. they should indeed be improved!!

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Seneca76
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Posted March 17th, 2010 06:21 PM IP

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mr.know it all wrote:

with 8 or 9 returning lettermen on def. they should indeed be improved!!

LOL, if they held everyone to 30 points a game that would be an improvement! You can have all the lettermen you want, but average is jus average.

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mr.know it all
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Posted March 17th, 2010 11:31 PM IP

those 8 or 9 returning lettermen were all starters, there's another 2 or 3 kids that saw enough action to also letter. That's 12 returning lettermen that saw action on the def. side of the ball. Just because they played average or below last year, what makes you think for a minute the'll be just average this year. Kids get bigger, stronger, smarter. Experience goes a long ways my friend. We had a lot of kids that got a baptism to high school football last year. Thats only going to help them this year and next. The rest i think you can figure it out.

"I never said most of the things I said, but when I do say is it,it's the truth!!!

galion All-District Posts: 474 Registered: Nov 2009	Posted March 18th, 2010 05:20 AM IP Kids do get bigger and stronger but not necessarily smarter. Sometimes throwing kids to the wolves for the sake of experience ends up backfiring on you big time. Did they learn schematics or proper form and tecnique? Or were they just thrown out there and told to do their best? Sometimes learning to lose just brings more losing.

Seneca76 NOSF Insider Posts: 3042 Registered: Oct 2006	Posted March 18th, 2010 11:16 AM IP Do remember the worst team in the nation has returning letterman, it means nothing! Now talent is a different issue. Back in the day

Blodg
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Posted March 18th, 2010 01:06 PM IP

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mr.know it all wrote:
those 8 or 9 returning lettermen were all starters

Bellevue's defense had 5 seniors starting last year even after the freshman took over at safety. That only leaves 6 spots for returning lettermen.

We keep hearing how young Bellevue was last year but both Shelby and Tiffin have more returning starters on both sides of the ball for next year than Bellevue.

Fastforward2 Moderator Posts: 5992 Registered: Mar 2009	Posted March 18th, 2010 06:15 PM IP Didn't know Belevue played defense. Bellevue has been young for like 4 years now!! Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

redskinfan04 All-American Posts: 5805 Registered: Jan 2006	Posted March 18th, 2010 07:13 PM IP This will tell you all you should need to know about Bellevue's team last season. They got their asses kicked up and down the field by Perkins. I never in my life thought I would see a Bellevue team get their asses kicked like that. Iron What? IRON ****ING MAIDEN!!! \M/

mr.know it all
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Posted March 18th, 2010 09:16 PM IP

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Blodg wrote:

Bellevue's defense had 5 seniors starting last year even after the freshman took over at safety. That only leaves 6 spots for returning lettermen.

We keep hearing how young Bellevue was last year but both Shelby and Tiffin have more returning starters on both sides of the ball for next year than Bellevue.

manner, roth, bodyke,sieger,ball,santoro, lydan,berkey,boyer,adkinson,lewis were all either starters or saw enough action to letter. Thats 11 returning lettermen on the def. side of the ball coming back this year. Out of those 11, 1 was a frosh, 5 were sophs.
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