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ScarletFever Administrator Posts: 19574 Registered: Apr 2005	Posted October 31st, 2009 09:41 PM IP I'm thinking Galion finds a way @ home. "He put the dagger in the coffin" - Austin Carr

salty_monkey NOSF Insider Posts: 4124 Registered: Jan 2006	Posted October 31st, 2009 09:47 PM IP So far, the Tigers have "found a way" every game with the exception of two. Last night because they finally clicked on offense and against Colonel Crawford because they pitched a shutout. (Edited by salty_monkey) “What is integrity? It is absolute, wholeness, and truth. Without blemish.”

giffiusmcohio74 All-State Posts: 3590 Registered: Sep 2007	Posted October 31st, 2009 10:34 PM IP Scarlet... nice picture! That #47 looks like a man amongst boys. What's the scoop on Eastwood? Looking at their schedule they've beaten a lot of 0-10 teams it appears. The only real team they faced (Genoa) - they got clobbered. Semper Fi! Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

OSU Josh
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Posted October 31st, 2009 10:42 PM IP

is #47 that huge kid who plays basketball? I remember a really tall kid on Eastwood's team when they beat Bellevue in the sectional final last year

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ScarletFever
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Posted October 31st, 2009 11:17 PM IP

I've lightly followed some teams from up north this year here's the best I can diagnose Eastwood's schedule:

8/28 H Clyde (6-4) W 32-21 - Good win, but Clyde started slow at 0-3
9/4 A Rossford (0-10) W 72-0 - Nobody
9/11 H Oak Harbor (4-6) W 41-14 - Solid win against a strange OH team that lost to P Clinton but actually beat Clyde
9/18 A Otsego (0-10) W 45-6 - Nobody
9/25 H Woodmore (4-6) W 76-34 - ?
10/2 A Genoa Area (10-0) L 11-54 - Machine
10/9 H Lake (7-3) W 9-7 - Solid win
10/16 A Elmwood (3-7) W 48-0 - Nobody
10/23 H Patrick Henry (10-0) L 0-35 - Machine
10/30 A Gibsonburg (3-7) W 34-6 - Nobody

So they've played 2 good teams and 2 elite teams. Beat the good teams and got smashed by the elite.

"He put the dagger in the coffin" - Austin Carr

Vogel
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Posted October 31st, 2009 11:49 PM IP

From the Vogel Rankings

Eastwood's opponents from Best to Worst
96.749 - (10-0) - Genoa ---------------------- LOST by 43
89.215 - (10-0) - Patrick Henry -------------- LOST by 35
67.018 - (6-4) - Clyde ------------------------- Won by 11
57.849 - (7-3) - Millbury Lake --------------- Won by 2
53.760 - (4-6) - Oak Harbor ----------------- Won by 27
51.383 - (4-6) - Woodmore ------------------ Won by 42
47.745 - (3-7) - Gibsonburg ----------------- Won by 28
38.901 - (3-7) - Elmwood -------------------- Won by 48
33.854 - (0-10) - Rossford ------------------- Won by 72
26.540 - (0-10) - Otsego -------------------- Won by 39

Galion's opponents from Best to Worst
71.243 - (7-3) - Tiffin Columbian ------------- Won by 7
68.613 - (8-2) - Bucyrus ----------------------- Won by 8
63.993 - (6-4) - Colonel Crawford ----------- Won by 21
56.127 - (5-5) - Shelby ------------------------ Won by 7
55.334 - (5-5) - Bellevue ---------------------- Won by 21
52.602 - (3-7) - Fostoria ----------------------- Won by 7
51.650 - (3-7) - Willard ------------------------- Won by 14
47.430 - (2-8) - Upper Sandusky ------------- Won by 7
43.699 - (2-8) - Mount Gilead ----------------- Won by 17
42.910 - (1-9) - Norwalk ----------------------- Won by 14

The 2 teams Eastwood lost to would smash Galion too.

Galion is a 1 pt favorite vs Eastwood according to the Vogel Rankings.

Both Galion and Eastwood are low 70 rating teams.

Eastwood is right there with Galion and TC this year. This should either be Galion's toughest game so far or 2nd toughest game behind TC.

Vogel Administrator Posts: 1237 Registered: Apr 2009	Posted October 31st, 2009 11:51 PM IP Final Regular Season NOL Vogel Rankings 72.684 - (10-0) - Galion 71.243 - (7-3) - Tiffin Columbian 56.127 - (5-5) - Shelby 55.334 - (5-5) - Bellevue 52.602 - (3-7) - Fostoria 51.650 - (3-7) - Willard 47.430 - (2-8) - Upper Sandusky 42.910 - (1-9) - Norwalk

giffiusmcohio74
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Posted October 31st, 2009 11:52 PM IP

Well here's some scoop on the region and how others outside of the NOL perceive it! I will give credit to the source only as another forum. It is not my own stats!

Genoa
8/28 A Rossford (0-10) [4:14] W 60-0
9/4 A Oak Harbor (4-6) [3:10] W 51-0
9/11 A Port Clinton (4-6) [4:14] W 62-7
9/18 H Woodmore (4-6) [5:18] W 55-0
9/25 A Northwood (7-3) [5:18] W 48-6
10/2 H Eastwood (8-2) [4:14] W 54-11
10/9 H Gibsonburg (3-7) [5:18] W 47-0
10/16 A Lake (7-3) [4:14] W 49-0
10/23 A Otsego (0-10) [4:14] W 51-0
10/30 H Elmwood (3-7) [5:18] W 60-0

Opponents Total Record: 40-60 (0 D2's, 1 D3's, 5 D4's, 4 D5's)

Orrville
8/28 H Northwest (7-3) [3:11] L 14-40
9/4 A Triway (8-2) [4:14] L 14-28
9/11 H Copley (6-4) [2:5] W 32-13
9/18 H Lexington (6-4) [2:6] W 41-21
9/25 A Mansfield (4-6) [2:6] W 32-3
10/2 A West Holmes (2-8) [3:11] W 42-0
10/9 H Ashland (9-1) [2:5] L 13-14
10/16 A Madison Comprehensive (1-9) [2:6] W 41-24
10/23 A Clear Fork (7-3) [4:14] W 32-21
10/30 H Wooster (5-5) [2:5] W 15-7

Opponents Total Record: 55-45 (6 D2's, 2 D3's, 2 D4's, 0 D5's)

***This does support my posts last week in that Genoa hasn't played anyone! Nada! They run the wing T, have a good offense and a great defense... but have not been tested once. I would think Orrville will be a legit test.

(Another post from other forum)

Just for fun, I added up the combined records of each team's opponents. I also calculated the average opponents division. Finally, I divided the opponents wins, by average division size to give a true strength of schedule comparison.

School: Opp Rec. Avg. Size Strength Factor

Orrville 55-45 2.6 21.15
Clear Fork 52-48 2.8 18.57
Ott. Gland 43-57 3.3 13.03
Triway 46-54 3.7 12.43
Galion 42-58 3.6 11.66
Edison 45-55 4 11.25
Eastwood 47-53 4.2 11.19
Genoa 40-60 4.3 9.3

So we'll see how the Vag rankings fair throughout the playoffs. I don't think Genoa is as good as Vag thinks they are. Neither does the majority of the state outside of NOSF!

Semper Fi!

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giffiusmcohio74
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Posted October 31st, 2009 11:57 PM IP

Quote:
Vogel wrote:
From the Vogel Rankings

Eastwood's opponents from Best to Worst
96.749 - (10-0) - Genoa ---------------------- LOST by 43
89.215 - (10-0) - Patrick Henry -------------- LOST by 35
67.018 - (6-4) - Clyde ------------------------- Won by 11
57.849 - (7-3) - Millbury Lake --------------- Won by 2
53.760 - (4-6) - Oak Harbor ----------------- Won by 27
51.383 - (4-6) - Woodmore ------------------ Won by 42
47.745 - (3-7) - Gibsonburg ----------------- Won by 28
38.901 - (3-7) - Elmwood -------------------- Won by 48
33.854 - (0-10) - Rossford ------------------- Won by 72
26.540 - (0-10) - Otsego -------------------- Won by 39

Galion's opponents from Best to Worst
71.243 - (7-3) - Tiffin Columbian ------------- Won by 7
68.613 - (8-2) - Bucyrus ----------------------- Won by 8
63.993 - (6-4) - Colonel Crawford ----------- Won by 21
56.127 - (5-5) - Shelby ------------------------ Won by 7
55.334 - (5-5) - Bellevue ---------------------- Won by 21
52.602 - (3-7) - Fostoria ----------------------- Won by 7
51.650 - (3-7) - Willard ------------------------- Won by 14
47.430 - (2-8) - Upper Sandusky ------------- Won by 7
43.699 - (2-8) - Mount Gilead ----------------- Won by 17
42.910 - (1-9) - Norwalk ----------------------- Won by 14

The 2 teams Eastwood lost to would smash Galion too.

Galion is a 1 pt favorite vs Eastwood according to the Vogel Rankings.

Both Galion and Eastwood are low 70 rating teams.

Eastwood is right there with Galion and TC this year. This should either be Galion's toughest game so far or 2nd toughest game behind TC.

I disagree. Vag Rankings are wrong! The top 3 teams in the NOL would beat Eastwood this year.

Galion, Tiffin, Bellevue would win by 2 TD's.

The middle of the pack teams: Willard, Shelby would be 3 point favorites.

Upper Sandusky would be a coin toss.

Semper Fi!

Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

Vogel Administrator Posts: 1237 Registered: Apr 2009	Posted October 31st, 2009 11:57 PM IP ^^^^ That little CRAP you just posted would say Eastwood > Genoa 54 - Genoa 11 - Eastwood Vogel Rankings say Genoa by 25 if they met Eastwood in Genoa. Actual - Genoa by 43.

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Posted November 1st, 2009 12:03 AM IP

Vogel Rankings for round 1 of Region 14

Galion over Eastwood by 1
Genoa over Edison by 25
Orrville over CF by 2
Don't have Triway or O-G ranked

Giff is sounding like the Fostoria fans last year.

"We'll crush Genoa. Who have they played. We are mighty Fostoria. They are Genoa, they play Woodmore. We'll crush them."

2008 Vogel Rankings
95.018 - Genoa
87.581 - Fostoria

Genoa as a 7.5 pt favorite that won by 14

Guess 2009 Galion is greater than 2008 Fostoria. Genoa's just as good this year as last year. But Gifferoo thinks Genoa is a joke and his Galion boys will clobber them.

giffiusmcohio74
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Posted November 1st, 2009 12:06 AM IP

No - your stupid *** just makes things up. Giff never once said Galion would beat Genoa. All I've said is that Orrville should be a legit test for them. Guarantee it will be their first test of the year! Win or lose.

Dude go take your meds and then get off your horse about everyone saying galion is great and this and that about years past. Fact is that Willard with all their greatness has never won a state championship and lost every year in the playoffs. So that means they sucked right Vag! Per your theory?

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giffiusmcohio74
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Posted November 1st, 2009 12:09 AM IP

Quote:
Vogel wrote:
^^^^ That little CRAP you just posted would say Eastwood > Genoa

54 - Genoa
11 - Eastwood

Vogel Rankings say Genoa by 25 if they met Eastwood in Genoa. Actual - Genoa by 43.

Dude how do you even get that I said Eastwood was better than Genoa? How do you get that I Said Galion was better than Genoa?

Let me spell this out easily for you.

1. Genoa hasn't played anyone!
2. Their first real test will be Orrville!
3. Galion will win their first game, maybe second..
4. No one is saying Galion will beat Genoa. No one.

Is that simple enough for you? Take your meds yet?

Semper Fi!

Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

giffiusmcohio74 All-State Posts: 3590 Registered: Sep 2007	Posted November 1st, 2009 12:12 AM IP p.s... Vag.... Galion is turning in their jock straps for cleaning Monday a.m.... I told them to just drop them off at your place. That way you can sniff 10-0 and NOL Champ sweat. Semper Fi! Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

Vogel Administrator Posts: 1237 Registered: Apr 2009	Posted November 1st, 2009 07:39 AM IP For giff, Has Galion played anyone yet? After week 11 will Galion have played anyone? According to you Galion's week 11 opponent is no one. Then I'll expect a 54-11 beat down of that nobody.

The Bear All-District Posts: 260 Registered: Apr 2007	Posted November 1st, 2009 09:03 AM IP Vog, Galion had to be beat somebody to get to where they are --- in the playoffs. I bet those kids from those other teams really like being called a bunch of nobodies.

GT96-15 All-County Posts: 201 Registered: Sep 2008	Posted November 1st, 2009 09:47 AM IP Eastwoood run the wing-t. Closest comparison to a team Galion played is Bucyrus minus their quarterback. Eastwood throws the ball about 5 times a game, quarterback is not very good. They have a nice fullback and tailback, and a 6'6 defensive end that causes problems. Galion 35-21.

Titan48 All-Block Posts: 15 Registered: Oct 2009	Posted November 1st, 2009 12:33 PM IP Going to be a tough game probably the toughest game this year for the Tigers. Good luck to Galion on Saturday. American Pride

Pronkville All-American Posts: 8683 Registered: Jul 2007	Posted November 1st, 2009 12:46 PM IP Galion has not seen a football team outside of the NOL and the NCC with the exception of Mt.Gilead. This will deffinitely be a true test, I hope Galion holds on and I think they will. Galion by 3 Rose Bowl Champions! GO BUCKS!!!!

ScarletFever
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Posted November 1st, 2009 01:04 PM IP

Quote:
GT96-15 wrote:
Eastwood throws the ball about 5 times a game, quarterback is not very good.

That might be a bad thing for Galion. I've seen Galion get pushed around against the run twice in person. The difference plays in Galion's defense have been INT's.

Galion's offense has the ability to outscore teams, but my worry for Galion is getting worn down by the run from a team that specializes in it.

"He put the dagger in the coffin" - Austin Carr

TornadoWarning All-Region Posts: 637 Registered: Aug 2006	Posted November 1st, 2009 01:41 PM IP Good Luck to the Tigers!! Going to try very hard to make it over to Galion Friday root them on....

OSU Josh
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Posted November 1st, 2009 01:46 PM IP

Quote:
TornadoWarning wrote:
Good Luck to the Tigers!! Going to try very hard to make it over to Galion Friday root them on....

don't worry about getting there on Friday, it's a Saturday game

TornadoWarning
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Posted November 1st, 2009 02:09 PM IP

Quote:
OSU Josh wrote:

don't worry about getting there on Friday, it's a Saturday game

Looks like I'll get great seats!!

GalionTigers All-City Posts: 54 Registered: Jan 2009	Posted November 1st, 2009 02:13 PM IP Galion's latest success on defense has because of caused turnovers. They had 3 against Fostoria, 3 against Willard and 4 against Bellevue. They also havent turned the ball over in 3 straight games...If Galion causes a couple turnovers then they will win this game.

OSU Josh
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Posted November 1st, 2009 02:17 PM IP

fwiw, only 2 of the turnovers in the Bellevue game were caused by Galion (unless you want to give Galion credit for a bad Bellevue snap and the wind knocking down a punt into a blocker)

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Posted November 1st, 2009 02:50 PM IP

Quote:
OSU Josh wrote:
fwiw, only 2 of the turnovers in the Bellevue game were caused by Galion (unless you want to give Galion credit for a bad Bellevue snap and the wind knocking down a punt into a blocker)

Yeah it was a bad snap and a botched punt.

They ripped away a run fumble which was legit and the interception of Watson was a heck of a catch by Galion's DB.

If eastwood hangs onto the ball with a power running game Galion could have some trouble.

"He put the dagger in the coffin" - Austin Carr

giffiusmcohio74
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Posted November 1st, 2009 04:58 PM IP

I like the fact they have a 6'6 defensive end. Good luck chasing down Brooks and Williams! :-)

Galion will be fine. For not playing anyone this season, I think we'll show up and represent the NOL just fine. Even though the NOL sucks this year. *

*Note... views by the founder of NOSF are not necessarily the views of those that use the forum.

Semper Fi!

Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

giffiusmcohio74
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Posted November 1st, 2009 05:02 PM IP

Quote:
Vogel wrote:
For giff,
Has Galion played anyone yet?

After week 11 will Galion have played anyone?

According to you Galion's week 11 opponent is no one. Then I'll expect a 54-11 beat down of that nobody.

Actually they have played some good teams this year..

Ask Bellevue how good Tiffin was this year! Bucyrus was a good team as well. I'll give Bellevue and Shelby their props... good teams. Great? No. But good. Better than MOST of the teams that Genoa or Eastwood have played.

Already posted strength of schedule above. Look past your Vag rankings and you'll see what the rest of Ohio sees.

Semper Fi!

Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

giffiusmcohio74
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Posted November 1st, 2009 05:07 PM IP

I've said since preseason that our weakness was our secondary. Bellevue is the ONLY team we played this year that truly tested our secondary. We were able to get some fortunate turnovers both earned and unearned.

The point... we've played 9 teams who predominately ran the ball against us and we found ways to stop them. I would much rather play a running team than a passing team with the players we have. The fact that our offense is finally starting to fire on all cylinders presents more problems for the opponents we're going to be facing. As long as our defense bends but doesn't break like it has all year we will be fine Saturday.

Go Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Semper Fi!

Actions Speak Louder Than Words! No Better Friend... No Worse Enemy! Count on it.

redskinfan04 All-American Posts: 5805 Registered: Jan 2006	Posted November 1st, 2009 05:20 PM IP Galion need's to keep Siefert running east to west. Iron What? IRON ****ING MAIDEN!!! \M/

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