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TrueTiger
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Registered: Jan 2011 |
 Posted January 27th, 2012 06:52 AM IP   
The OCC will be realigning (according to reports) by adding Galion and Ontario and dropping Orrville, West Holmes, and Wooster. The "new" Ohio Cardinal Conference will be a 7-team league with the following members: Mansfield Sr., Mansfield Madison, Lexington, Ashland, Clear Fork, Ontario, and Galion beginning 2013-2014 season. Athletic Directors and some coaches already met this week and it appears to be highly likely this "new" league will form.
I Bleed Orange & Blue!!!
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DJLanceRock
All-County
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Registered: Oct 2011 |
Posted January 27th, 2012 08:27 AM IP
Ontario and Galion the new Crestline and Lucas of the OCC.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
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runandshoot1
All-County
Posts: 211
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Posted January 27th, 2012 08:35 AM IP
You can't really have 7 in a league can you? Add Shelby to that mix and I think you have a good league!!
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salty_monkey
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Posted January 27th, 2012 08:50 AM IP
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runandshoot1 wrote:
You can't really have 7 in a league can you? Add Shelby to that mix and I think you have a good league!!
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I think they were invited........may not come until 2014-15 season.
“What is integrity? It is absolute, wholeness, and truth. Without blemish.”
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salty_monkey
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Posted January 27th, 2012 08:50 AM IP
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DJLanceRock wrote:
Ontario and Galion the new Crestline and Lucas of the OCC.
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Cannot say they are "running from tougher competition".....unlike some.......
“What is integrity? It is absolute, wholeness, and truth. Without blemish.”
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DJLanceRock
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:12 AM IP
They already have.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
Posts: 3948
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:21 AM IP
Galion will jump out of this league quicker than the NCC dropped them. Don't think Galion will play a single game in this league.
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crawfordcountybuck
All-District
Posts: 331
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:28 AM IP
I hope Shelby jumps on board with this. I've talked to a few Shelby middle school parents that are not happy with the long Sandusky trips on school nights. Then add Vermillion in there in another year.....Oooooo
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:31 AM IP
Boys Enrollment
470 - Ashland
435 - Mansfield Sr
390 - Madison
328 - Lexington
224 - Clear Fork
215 - Galion
201 - Ontario
If Galion thought they were too small for the NOL then...
And Ontario basketball is in for a lot of L's
2011-12 - 0-2 vs the OCC with 1 game left - but 4-3 in the NCC
2010-11 - 0-3 vs OCC but 12-2 in the NCC
2009-10 - 1-2 vs OCC but 13-1 in the NCC
^^^ And Ontario has not been playing the top OCC team named Mansfield Sr
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:33 AM IP
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crawfordcountybuck wrote:
I hope Shelby jumps on board with this. I've talked to a few Shelby middle school parents that are not happy with the long Sandusky trips on school nights. Then add Vermillion in there in another year.....Oooooo
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Don't worry the parents you talked to probably have kids that will not be playing in High School.
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Galion75
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:36 AM IP
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Vogel wrote:
Galion will jump out of this league quicker than the NCC dropped them. Don't think Galion will play a single game in this league.
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Fortunately, a lot of people don't listen to what you think.
Galion left the NOL due to driving distance = fact.
Galion got screwed by 6 schools who decided to leave the NCC and they never even offered a clue as to exactly "WHY" = fact.
There is absolutely no rational reason to believe that Galion will want to leave a league that they just joined.....none whatsoever = fact.....unlike some other schools in the area (see above).
Nobody, not even you, can predict what will happen if/when Galion joins this league = fact.
Another fact =
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...............no offense!
My two favorite High School sports teams are the GALION TIGERS and anyone who is playing against the Wynford Royals.
For those that fought for it, FREEDOM has a taste the protected will NEVER know.
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:36 AM IP
current CalPreps basketball ratings
23.9 - Mansfield Sr
23.3 - Lexington
13.4 - Ashland
13.3 - Madison
7.9 - Clear Fork
6.2 - Ontario
5.4 - Galion
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CapitalNOL
All-Region
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:39 AM IP
Would Willard go to this league too?
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:40 AM IP
Yep, Galion left for travel reasons  Talk about delusional.
Galion left because they got trounced in the NOL for 65 years, couldn't take it anymore and ran off to play Lucas and Crestline.
Travel was a non-issue for 60+ years, it only became an issue when Galion needed a bogus excuse for why it tucked it's tail to take on Lucas.
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crawfordcountybuck
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:42 AM IP
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Vogel wrote:
Don't worry the parents you talked to probably have kids that will not be playing in High School.
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These 3 kids play travel baseball at the highest level in the COYBL. (Cent Ohio Youth Baseball League)
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:43 AM IP
Money Sport Titles
41 - Bellevue
30 - Willard
30 - Shelby
27 - Tiffin Columbian
14 - Galion
11 - Upper Sandusky
9 - Bucyrus
Those that could NOT ran off to play Lucas
Those that can, did not run off to play Lucas
Travel 
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fisherman
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:45 AM IP
Looks suspiciously like the proposed Richland County League, doesn't it?
Sports is no more than a game life is reality
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Galion75
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Posts: 241
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:45 AM IP
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Vogel wrote:
Yep, Galion left for travel reasons Talk about delusional.
Galion left because they got trounced in the NOL for 65 years, couldn't take it anymore and ran off to play Lucas and Crestline.
Travel was a non-issue for 60+ years, it only became an issue when Galion needed a bogus excuse for why it tucked it's tail to take on Lucas.
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Hey, know-it-all..........when was the last school board meeting that you attended in Galion? When was the last article that you read in the Galion paper that specifically stated the reason(s) as to why Galion left the NOL?
Come on, dude...............I live here. I read the local paper. I listen at school board meetings.
JEEZ! DUH!!!!!!!
DELUSIONAL!!!
My two favorite High School sports teams are the GALION TIGERS and anyone who is playing against the Wynford Royals.
For those that fought for it, FREEDOM has a taste the protected will NEVER know.
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:45 AM IP
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crawfordcountybuck wrote:
These 3 kids play travel baseball at the highest level in the COYBL. (Cent Ohio Youth Baseball League)
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Then TRAVEL would not be a problem. My cousin just went D-I in baseball and he was on travel teams. They travel all over.
Shelby to Sandusky is nothing compared to travel baseball. You are a load of laughs.
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Vogel
Sir Lancelot du Lac
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:47 AM IP
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Galion75 wrote:
Hey, know-it-all..........when was the last school board meeting that you attended in Galion? When was the last article that you read in the Galion paper that specifically stated the reason(s) as to why Galion left the NOL?
Come on, dude...............I live here. I read the local paper. I listen at school board meetings.
JEEZ! DUH!!!!!!!
DELUSIONAL!!!
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Yep, and the reason Willard fired Chris Hawkins was because Shirt-tails were untucked. That's what the BOE said and the paper said.
Your school left because they were perennial losers in the NOL.
Did you miss the near 50 straight NOL football games your school lost? The only games they could win in that time span were vs Bucyrus and Colonel Crawford. Two teams along with Lucas and Crestline that they ran off to play.
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crawfordcountybuck
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:50 AM IP
Your just mad Willard is gonna be stuck in a league they don't want to be in. (After Shelby leaves) And be the doormat!
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salty_monkey
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Posted January 27th, 2012 10:52 AM IP
....and had nothing to do with the fact that Galion continues to shrink in size compared to 10-15 years ago? C'mon, do those enrollement numbers for us would ya?
“What is integrity? It is absolute, wholeness, and truth. Without blemish.”
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fisherman
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:01 AM IP
Boys Enrollment per Vogel
470 - Ashland
435 - Mansfield Sr
390 - Madison
328 - Lexington
224 - Clear Fork
215 - Galion
201 - Ontario
What are Shelby's and Willard's boys enrollment figures? Ashland, Madision, SR Hi are all D1, Lex is D2, CF, Galion and otnario are DIV, right or wrong?
Sports is no more than a game life is reality
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Vogel
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:06 AM IP
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fisherman wrote:
What are Shelby's and Willard's boys enrollment figures? Ashland, Madision, SR Hi are all D1, Lex is D2, CF, Galion and otnario are DIV, right or wrong?
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267 - Shelby
223 - Willard
Ashland = D-2
Sr = D-2
Madison = D-2
Lex = D-3
Shelby = D-3
Willard = D-4
CF = D-4
Galion = D-4
Ontario = D-4
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cheers72
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Posts: 157
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:12 AM IP
Galion invited to the MOAC yesterday. I believe East Knox also invited.
Galion to the OCC or MOAC? My guess is MOAC.
Does anybody know if orrville is leaving the OCC?
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Buckeye2B
Sir Robin the Not-Quite-So-Brave-as-Sir Launcelot
Posts: 9618
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:13 AM IP
Travel time and cost was quoted as the primary factor in both Upper and Galion for leaving the NOL. I also believe that I will be winning the lottery this weekend. 
Not one board member or administrator in either Galion or Upper will ever come out and say that the reason they bailed on the NOL was the disparity in enrollment or inability to be competitive, even if the inability was based on the disparity or not. Cost...cost is a single factor in a bad economy which can justify leaving a league in which both schools were founding members, with tradition and history as well. A league in which grandparents, parents and their children all grew up and competed in. As a former Upper graduate, it angered me to see Upper walk away from that history, but they did it for their own reasons. It will historically show as both schools left for economical reasons, but as a reasonably intelligent adult, I also can read between the lines, as well as most of you can.
This being said, Upper in the MOAC will now enjoy almost the same travel distances as they had in the NOL, but I do expect they will be more competitive without having to wait so long between super athletic classes to win more than one or two games in a football season. If Galion does go to the OCC and sees the same enrollment disparity as noted above, I would expect they will be hoeing another long row as they did in the NOL. For their sake, I hope not.
On the plus side, both schools saved some money for two years in the NCC. 
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Buckeye2B
Sir Robin the Not-Quite-So-Brave-as-Sir Launcelot
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:15 AM IP
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cheers72 wrote:
Galion invited to the MOAC yesterday. I believe East Knox also invited.
Galion to the OCC or MOAC? My guess is MOAC.
Does anybody know if orrville is leaving the OCC?
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This would be Galion's best move, IMO. Economically and competitively speaking.
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
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fisherman
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:18 AM IP
Boys Enrollment per Vogel
470 - Ashland
435 - Mansfield Sr
390 - Madison
328 - Lexington
267 - Shelby
224 - Clear Fork
223 - Willard
215 - Galion
201 - Ontario
Too bad there isn't another "small school" floating around to make this a small/big division league (if it would ever come to pass)....Personnally, if Ashland would drop and Willard and Shelby join, this would be just IMO an ideal league
Sports is no more than a game life is reality
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cheers72
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:22 AM IP
Competively - yes economically - no
Shorter rides to Mansfield area schools and much bigger gates with Mansfield area schools.
More media coverage and District awards for kids would be hard when you are playing most of your games out of the district.
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crawfordcountybuck
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Posted January 27th, 2012 11:27 AM IP
I say they should take the OCC if they have a choice.
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