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FbFan
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 Posted December 8th, 2011 08:09 AM IP   
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salty_monkey wrote:
What cracks me up is this: If Galion (big school) according to madhatter, is going to "year-in, year-out" beat up on the "small" schools if there was not 2 divisions for the new "old" NCC, why in the heck would Colonel Crawford schedule Galion as a non-league game the past 12 years or so? CC has gotten beat the past 8 times and yet they continue to play Galion. So now that Galion is in the NCC, it is not okay to get beat for a "league" game like it was for a non-league game?  
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Same reason as Galion scheduled Mansfield Senior.
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ojayvee
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Posted December 8th, 2011 08:43 AM IP
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Mr. Green wrote:
jiminy christmas...isnt it time to put this he said she said bs to bed?......galion screwed up by leaving the nol....the little schools screwed up by allowing galion in and then waved goodbye.
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Again Mr. Green you have shown wisdom fair greater than the likes on this board could ever comprehend. Me included.Thank you for compressing 30 pages of bs into 2 lines. It is over and done with, move on to a better place. Galion is going to better off playing schools their size or bigger.
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FbFan
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Posted December 8th, 2011 08:49 AM IP
Agree! I can do this if others can.
"my name is FbFan and I like to stir the pot..."   
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salty_monkey
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Posted December 8th, 2011 09:41 AM IP
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FbFan wrote:
Same reason as Galion scheduled Mansfield Senior.
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yes, but Galion and Mansfield Sr. are not now in same league .
“What is integrity? It is absolute, wholeness, and truth. Without blemish.”
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NothingButAir
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Posted December 8th, 2011 10:14 AM IP
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salty_monkey wrote:
yes, but Galion and Mansfield Sr. are not now in same league .
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Right!! They're not in the same league! Galion would not want to be in the same league as Senior But as a non-league game it is okay and good for the team to play them.
Again Salty, yes most know that Galion had no problem w/ expansion but as was written in todays paper other than 2 or 3 "Big School" options most of the schools who could have been brought in to expand were "Small Schools" which not only would have kept Wynford in the "Big" side but possibly bumped a couple other "Small" schools up to the "Big" side. Which would have made the "Small" side very competitive but you would have had quite a mess in the "Big" side.
And the other issue with this mess, is that many of you are just looking at this from a Football perspective... Right or Wrong or whether you like or hate Wynford, Wynford football will be good (not as good, as previous yrs) the next several years but the big issues w/ Wynford, BC, Crestline, CC, Bucyrus & Riverdale is competing against the "Big Schools" (especially Ontario) in other boys & girls sports along with at the Junior High level.
Across the board, Ontario for the past many years have beaten the crap out of all the small schools at 7th 8th & 9th grade levels in all sports. Willy "the Silly" Filly constantly posts all the beat-downs that Ontario's Junior High & Freshman teams put on the other NCC teams in every sport!
Again, the reason for the New League, is simple: The expansion needed to be within the "Big" side and for whatever reason that could not get done, so the "Small" side teams said we are out-of-here. Period!! Right or wrong - that is it! Everyone needs to move on!!
"I've missed over 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times I've been trusted to take the game-winning shot . . . and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."
Michael Jordan
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MrSteel
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Posted December 8th, 2011 10:18 AM IP
^^^^ You would of thought the dumb azzes would of figured that out BEFORE bringing Galion and Upper in.
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FbFan
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Posted December 8th, 2011 10:25 AM IP
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MrSteel wrote:
^^^^ You would of thought the dumb azzes would of figured that out BEFORE bringing Galion and Upper in.
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And that Galion & Upper would have looked before they leaped.
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FbFan
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Posted December 8th, 2011 10:31 AM IP
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salty_monkey wrote:
yes, but Galion and Mansfield Sr. are not now in same league .
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CC and Galion not in same league before this year. If you remember, CC and Galion used to play OOC one of the first three games of the year. This year, the game moved to week 6 when they were now in same league.
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MrSteel
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Posted December 8th, 2011 10:49 AM IP
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FbFan wrote:
And that Galion & Upper would have looked before they leaped.
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They "ALL" should of drawn that circle and just seen the limits of possibilities then.
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Ezekiel
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Posted December 8th, 2011 11:08 AM IP
After reading this article, all I can say is lack of leadership.
http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com...-NCC-s-break-up
To expand immediately, as madhatter would suggest, takes a lot of dominos to fall. Heck the NCC president is quoted "Once we added Galion and Upper to the league it was like that is the start of the expansion, but it needs to continue," Dotson said. "I think in hindsight looking back I don't think we had a clear plan of what that expansion was going to be. I think that caused part of the problem, what was the direction, so that once the opportunity came to expand we would all be on the same page with that."
No clear plan?? Wowsers.
Champions are made in the off-season.
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Whittaker
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Posted December 8th, 2011 11:21 AM IP
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Ezekiel wrote:
No clear plan?? Wowsers.
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Same thing that almost brought down the NOL.
And to think these people were able to obtain advanced degrees.
I wonder if we'll ever learn that a diploma from most colleges is little more than a receipt for the checks mom and dad wrote.
It's sad because it's true.
"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
____Bertrand Russell
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fanofthegame
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Posted December 8th, 2011 12:15 PM IP
Hindsight is always 20/20, but the quote in the paper says they DREW THE CIRCLE, for the love of God, and admitted there weren't many viable bigs in that circle. Two of them would have required the demise of another league. It isn't like hindsight provided some new information they didn't have available to them back then. Those admins are in serious need of an eye exam.
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BUDMAN
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Posted December 8th, 2011 12:27 PM IP
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fanofthegame wrote:
Hindsight is always 20/20, but the quote in the paper says they DREW THE CIRCLE, for the love of God, and admitted there weren't many viable bigs in that circle. Two of them would have required the demise of another league. It isn't like hindsight provided some new information they didn't have available to them back then. Those admins are in serious need of an eye exam.
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How can you have the admins. run the league they have enough stress trying to run the school district with all the demands from the state and local people.
Also why don't the new league get Northmor in their league that be a a good move for the ones wanted the big schools out with and easy win
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fanofthegame
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Posted December 8th, 2011 12:54 PM IP
Everything is voted on by the school board. They vote based on info provided, for the most part, by their administrators. Somebody didn't do their job.
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BUDMAN
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Posted December 8th, 2011 12:58 PM IP
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fanofthegame wrote:
Everything is voted on by the school board. They vote based on info provided, for the most part, by their administrators. Somebody didn't do their job.
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REALLY
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Vogel
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Posted December 8th, 2011 01:28 PM IP
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Whittaker wrote:
Same thing that almost brought down the NOL.
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 You still at this? As all in the know said, 'The NOL is fine."
It was just you tail-tuckers that thought (and gleefully) that the NOL would crumble. We handed your arses to you for 65 years and since you couldn't beat us on the field or courts you hoped leaving would ruin the League. You failed for 65 years on the fields and courts and you tail-tuckers failed are ruining the NOL. You guys are CLASSIC losers.
Continue on with your fantasy
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted December 8th, 2011 03:38 PM IP
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Vogel wrote:
You still at this? As all in the know said, 'The NOL is fine."
It was just you tail-tuckers that thought (and gleefully) that the NOL would crumble. We handed your arses to you for 65 years and since you couldn't beat us on the field or courts you hoped leaving would ruin the League. You failed for 65 years on the fields and courts and you tail-tuckers failed are ruining the NOL. You guys are CLASSIC losers.
Continue on with your fantasy
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And now that they're gone, who are the NOL losers now?
Will this be yet ANOTHER question ball-less Vogel fails to answer?
(Edited by Willard Fillmore)
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted December 8th, 2011 03:44 PM IP
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galion wrote:
Bingo!!! This is why Madhater's "4 willing parties" are complete and total BS!!!
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AND we now know the school officials he got his information from lied to him OR Madhatter lied about where the information came from.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted December 8th, 2011 03:48 PM IP
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Ezekiel wrote:
^not sure 100% accurate that is, but I do believe Upper did not want Loudonville in the league due to travel reasons. Then again, was there ever an official vote?
The only thing that doesn't make sense would be is why Mohawk, Carey and Seneca East weren't added to the current NCC for the expansion, but is okay to join new league?
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One vote isn't enough to keep a school out, it takes three, The other 2 were Small schools......who desperately wanted expansion....imagine that.....more deception.
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Whittaker
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Posted December 8th, 2011 04:06 PM IP
Vogel,
In 2076, when Willard has been the smallest school in the conference for most of 65 years, you will have room to lecture Upper about loyalty and tail-tucking.
I will instruct my seed to give your seed(God help us) a plus 1 should Willard last that long.
In the meantime, shouldn't you be lambasting Mohawk, Carey, Seneca East, Wynford, Col. Crawford, Crestline, Riverdale, Ridgedale and Vermillion for switching conferences? Or is it only ex-NOL schools with State Championships in the money sports that get under your skin?
"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
____Bertrand Russell
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NOL Fan
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Posted December 8th, 2011 04:23 PM IP
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fanofthegame wrote:
Hindsight is always 20/20, but the quote in the paper says they DREW THE CIRCLE, for the love of God, and admitted there weren't many viable bigs in that circle. Two of them would have required the demise of another league. It isn't like hindsight provided some new information they didn't have available to them back then. Those admins are in serious need of an eye exam.
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I completely agree. Anyone with an ounce of a brain can understand that for expansion to happen the way the small schools wanted, it would have meant adding big schools. And if 3 years ago they undertook the exercise of looking at a map and identifying viable options, they SHOULD have been able to see that there weren't many & adding Upper & Galion shouldn't have happened at this time. Either they did this & ignored the evidence & still allowed things to proceed or really did wait until the school year started to do their due dilligence. It's irresponsible no matter how you look at it.
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Ram27
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Posted December 9th, 2011 08:09 PM IP
Vogel your are just an ***.
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted December 9th, 2011 08:17 PM IP
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NOL Fan wrote:
I completely agree. Anyone with an ounce of a brain can understand that for expansion to happen the way the small schools wanted, it would have meant adding big schools. And if 3 years ago they undertook the exercise of looking at a map and identifying viable options, they SHOULD have been able to see that there weren't many & adding Upper & Galion shouldn't have happened at this time. Either they did this & ignored the evidence & still allowed things to proceed or really did wait until the school year started to do their due dilligence. It's irresponsible no matter how you look at it.
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Riverdale, BC, CC, Crestline and Lucas wanted the Upper and Galion expansion more than any other school. They didn't want to compete against Ontario and Wynford for League Titles. This allowed those school to compete for a Division Title among themselves. Sometime after the expansion someone convinced them they were wrong or they realized it on their own that they made a mistake.
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Vogel
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Posted December 9th, 2011 09:43 PM IP
@ Whittaker the slow minded dimwit.
Willard has ALWAYS been one of the smallest NOL Schools.
Willard over the past 65+ years has beaten
Bellevue who was bigger than them
Norwalk who was bigger than them
Shelby who was bigger than them
Tiffin who was bigger than them
How is tail-tucking Galion and Upper going to affect Willard's ability to beat those schools. Dimwits like you astound me with your lack of intellect.
Maybe if Northwestern leaves the Big Ten then you'll think Ohio State will have trouble beating Michigan and Penn State.
Fillmore, you are dumb, dumb, dumb.
The only loser left in the NOL is Norwalk, and now that they are the biggest they will actually start winning some Titles. The rest of the schools will continue to do what they have been doing. Get a brain.
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Whittaker
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Posted December 9th, 2011 10:48 PM IP
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Vogel wrote:
Whittaker the slow minded dimwit.
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2076
That's when we'll know if Willard can hang in a league as long as Upper while being the smallest school.
And tell me where you went to college. I want to have a word with their English professor about redundancy and hyphens.
"slow minded dimwit"...LOL...that made my day!
"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
____Bertrand Russell
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted December 9th, 2011 11:14 PM IP
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Vogel wrote:
@ Whittaker the slow minded dimwit.
Willard has ALWAYS been one of the smallest NOL Schools.
Willard over the past 65+ years has beaten
Bellevue who was bigger than them
Norwalk who was bigger than them
Shelby who was bigger than them
Tiffin who was bigger than them
How is tail-tucking Galion and Upper going to affect Willard's ability to beat those schools. Dimwits like you astound me with your lack of intellect.
Maybe if Northwestern leaves the Big Ten then you'll think Ohio State will have trouble beating Michigan and Penn State.
Fillmore, you are dumb, dumb, dumb.
The only loser left in the NOL is Norwalk, and now that they are the biggest they will actually start winning some Titles. The rest of the schools will continue to do what they have been doing. Get a brain.
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Vogel you are a loser, loser, loser.
Mr. Statman, how about you keep track of what place all NOL schools finish in all sports and post it on a yearly basis.
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted December 9th, 2011 11:17 PM IP
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Whittaker wrote:
2076
That's when we'll know if Willard can hang in a league as long as Upper while being the smallest school.
And tell me where you went to college. I want to have a word with their English professor about redundancy and hyphens.
"slow minded dimwit"...LOL...that made my day!
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Vogel is an ignorant ugly mouthed loser who can not communicate without calling people names. A loser and a psychopath.
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Buckeye2B
Sir Robin the Not-Quite-So-Brave-as-Sir Launcelot
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Posted December 9th, 2011 11:18 PM IP
In the NOL, it's the All-Sports Trophy. I'm pretty sure you can find that on the web somewhere, and they do it yearly.
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted December 10th, 2011 12:14 AM IP
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Buckeye2B wrote:
In the NOL, it's the All-Sports Trophy. I'm pretty sure you can find that on the web somewhere, and they do it yearly.
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It's called that every where. All I want is for King Statman to list all sports and order of finish. They tell you who wins the All-Sports Trophy, but you never hear who finished 3rd or last.
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