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writerbuckeye
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 Posted November 24th, 2011 10:34 AM IP   
I started this since I tried posting and the message was that the topic had maxed out on posts.
Happy Thanksgiving all...
I think Mohawk will end up following SE and Carey to the new league. They already have a strong history in athletics with all the other teams, at various times in their history.
As for Ridgedale, I think they realize they're too small now and need to be in a D5 D6 league.
What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger.
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BeenThereDoneThat
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Posted November 24th, 2011 11:46 AM IP
Folks, this entire fiasco can be easily explained through genetics. See, Crawford County's breeding practices are very suspect as "INbreeding" is at an all-time high!!!
Let us investigate:
Colonel Crawford's Superintenant's son is the Bucyrus football coach (and he, too, is a CC grad.)
CC's athletic director is a Wynford grad.
Wynford's football staff is primarily Crestline folk.
Bucyrus' Superintendant is a Buckeye Central grad......
.....I could go on and on...as you can see, the "family ties" are quite astounding!
Thus the "Big 3" (with their 95% "pure" Crawford bloodlines) just decided that they just couldn't afford to have their "blood" tainted.
Upper's AD is a CC grad, but Wynford decided that Upper was way too big and would potentially bring too many Nevada-like Wyandot Countians into the league. Wynford knows what more Nevada-like people would bring to the picture. UGH... Bye Bye Upper.
Galion takes up Crawford County, but their seemingly much-larger reach into that Richland County blood would ruin the overall Crawford County bloodlines. Bye Bye Galion.
Ontario and Lucas? Well, their bloodlines are pure Richland County, but the larger concern was that the Crawford Countians were afraid of the Mansfield City bloodline (a whole different beast!).
Yes, Crestline has some Richland but it's a very, very tiny amount. It won't hurt... Bye Bye Lucas and Ontario and Crestline get's the "bye"...for now.
Shockingly, you ask:
Why does Riverdale get to stick around? Well, RHS is comprised of 3 total counties (Hancock, Hardin, AND Wyandot). Their blood is already so watered down that it won't hurt. Heck, they'll fit in just fine with the Crawford County folk!!
Seneca East? Kissing cousins of BC. Pretty darn close to fitting in if you ask me.
Carey? Yes, they are Wyandot County, too, BUT they are too far removed from the village of Nevada to have any real effect on the Crawford County bloodlines.
Mohawk? See SE. Kissing cousins to Wynford, BC, and maybe even SE!!
Ridgedale is a 2nd kissing cousin who "makes out" with Wynford...but they and Wynford cut their pinkies, and made a blood pact not to bring the other Marion County riff-raff into the picture. So they're both"blood brothers." Golly, a perfect match now!!
Combine everything together and the "Big 3" only saw a chance of actually maintaining, or GASP, even improving, their inbred "bloodlines"!
See, people, it's not so difficult.
It's simple science. 
You just can't argue with IGNORANCE.
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Mr. Green
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Posted November 24th, 2011 12:20 PM IP
lmao^^^
"without me there is no you" JDW
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mulligan
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Posted November 24th, 2011 03:50 PM IP
BeenThereDoneThat,
We are all now dumber for having read your post! In fact you have proven you obviously come from a family of stong inbreeders yourself by making such stupid unsubtantiated comments.
Now, what about Hawkins, a Wynford grad himself. Explain that one dufus.
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SHS2007
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Posted November 24th, 2011 03:56 PM IP
^ The art of satire and sarcasm is a new concept to you, isn't it?
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BeenThereDoneThat
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Posted November 24th, 2011 05:11 PM IP
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mulligan wrote:
BeenThereDoneThat,
We are all now dumber for having read your post! In fact you have proven you obviously come from a family of stong inbreeders yourself by making such stupid unsubtantiated comments.
Now, what about Hawkins, a Wynford grad himself. Explain that one dufus.
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Not so fast my friend. Hawkins is STILL VERY MUCH intertwined through the Bucyrus "family lines," but I won't bring up anymore than that. However, he truly messed up his situation by burning the proverbial Wynford bridge by crossing over and being a part of the Huron County family clan (Willard). Their "bloodlines" trump anything Crawford County has to offer, so he screwed up that deal himself......
Seriously, a little humor was in order as it's soooo obvious why these schools stick together in a time like this. They all rub each others back.
These 3 royally screwed over the newcomers and screwed over 2 other VERY loyal league foes in Ontario and Lucas. Period.
Spin it anyway you want, but this IS the truth.
I have chosen to use sarcasm, satire and wit to entertain the masses, because, frankly, mulligan, there's not a damn thing I can do here on NOSF.
THEY chose to bring it upon themselves, not me.
THEY pulled the plug after one half season, not me.
THEY screwed over other good schools and the student-athletes, not me.
I may be a "dufus," but I'm smart enough to recognize a pile of crap when I see it.
It reflects on YOUR communities, not mine.
With that being said, I VERY TRULY wish the BC and Wynford kids the BEST of luck in their state semi games and I sincerely hope that each brings back state championship trophies for themselves! Yes, for THEMSELVES and not for the so-called "leaders" (adults) of their respective schools!
You just can't argue with IGNORANCE.
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TVTimeout
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Posted November 24th, 2011 05:19 PM IP
Do I hear banjo music faintly in the background?
"Get Busy Livin....or get busy dying!"
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Curtis
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Posted November 24th, 2011 07:24 PM IP
I'm sure the Upper paper, the Daily Fire Chief, will continue to over cover Riverdale and Wynford (Carey and Mohawk get a pass). I really, don't want to read about the Royals or the Falcons anymore. It was like this before the blow up. I know, don't subscribe or don't read their articles. Probably won't.
I think lost in all of this are two points worth noting, Upper has been extremely poor in various sports for awhile and regularly got it handed to them by the vary schools that want the Rams out. Are all of the schools suppose to be of equal size? Upper went up against Columbian forever.
The culture that allows this cluster @$$# to happen is the same one we are seeing nationally; i.e., "I got mine; you get yours."
Second, everyone hates Lucas because it's "way over there" and is never any good, etc., etc. But you know the Cubs fielded teams and everyone else got to pad their stats when they played them. But, they still played on.
I believe former Dallas Cowboy kicker Tim Seder was coaching at Lucas when he made his unprecedented march to the Cowboys. What a freakin;' story that was and is! No connection to this fiasco or to the new Wynford League; just thought I'd mention it since the Cubbies are getting butkis on here. No way to treat a fellow league team that put up with a lot.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 07:54 PM IP
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TVTimeout wrote:
Do I hear banjo music faintly in the background?
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Deliverance! Was thinking the same thing. That little dude playing the banjo on the front porch looks quite a bit like young Sheldon. 
Same thing down in Bellville. Ever notice how many redheads they have down there?
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OSU Josh
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Posted November 24th, 2011 08:03 PM IP
Northern 10 Athletic Conference.
I wonder what the common abbreviation will be. N10? NTAC?
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Willard Fillmore
The Bona Fide All American
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Posted November 24th, 2011 08:07 PM IP
Quote:
BeenThereDoneThat wrote:
These 3 royally screwed over the newcomers and screwed over 2 other VERY loyal league foes in Ontario and Lucas. Period.
Spin it anyway you want, but this IS the truth.
I have chosen to use sarcasm, satire and wit to entertain the masses, because, frankly, mulligan, there's not a damn thing I can do here on NOSF.
THEY chose to bring it upon themselves, not me.
THEY pulled the plug after one half season, not me.
THEY screwed over other good schools and the student-athletes, not me.
I may be a "dufus," but I'm smart enough to recognize a pile of crap when I see it.
It reflects on YOUR communities, not mine.
With that being said, I VERY TRULY wish the BC and Wynford kids the BEST of luck in their state semi games and I sincerely hope that each brings back state championship trophies for themselves! Yes, for THEMSELVES and not for the so-called "leaders" (adults) of their respective schools!
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The most interesting factoid about The Wynford League. They want to make damn sure no one screws them like they screwed the NCC. Once the ink is dry on your acceptance of admission you MUST stay for 10 years or face a $100,000 fine. Is there a high school league in the entire country as gutless as The Wynford League?
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 08:14 PM IP
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mulligan wrote:
BeenThereDoneThat,
We are all now dumber for having read your post! In fact you have proven you obviously come from a family of stong inbreeders yourself by making such stupid unsubtantiated comments.
Now, what about Hawkins, a Wynford grad himself. Explain that one dufus.
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One proves their lack of intellect by putting down another using a copycat attack.
stong inbreeders? unsubtantiated ?? Sounds like a West Kenginia dialect.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 08:23 PM IP
It could be FOUR years, the 2015-2016 season, before The Wynford League plays their first game. The OHSAA says a new league(the NEW NCC) must stay together for two years before a school or schools can petition to leave a league. Then the NCC has a Bylaw that says a school must give a 2 year notice to leave. So Upper, Galion and Ontario and Lucas has 4 years to find new members for the NCC or find new leagues to join.
All former members of the MAL and NCC could have as many as 4 years to take abuse before they are set free.
By that time Crestline might lose so many students to Galion and Ontario thru Open Enrollment they could have so few students left that The Wynford League might not want them.
(Edited by Willard Fillmore)
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BeenThereDoneThat
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Posted November 24th, 2011 08:47 PM IP
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Willard Fillmore wrote:
One proves their lack of intellect by putting down another using a copycat attack.
stong inbreeders? unsubtantiated ?? Sounds like a West Kenginia dialect.
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I don't want this to be a situation where people on this site assume that I'm attacking them, Willy.
That's not my intention at all, so I won't get caught up in attacking mulligan. Heck, I enjoy being a "dufus," so mulligan just gave me a compliment!
I will say that my humor is DEFINITELY a backhand towards the people in charge that have made these decisions... ADULTS who have used very questionable tactics to achieve something that WILL greatly affect fellow local institutions... institutions that HAVE (HAD?) made strong COMMITMENTS to the NCC as evidenced by leaving their former tradition-laden league affiliations.
The reason this is going down is due to the tight connections (hence, my "inbreeding" terminology) that 3 or 4 of these schools have because each share so many local graduates (heck, even Coach Ehrseman at Wynford is a BC grad!). They band together and DAMN be to everyone outside of their inner-circle (reason for my use of "bloodlines").
Furthermore, I bet a million bucks that Papa Sheldon isn't too happy about Coach Balogh at Ontario getting shafted in such a manner, Willy!! Right? All conjecture on my part, but I'd bet I'm right!!
But what are we going to do about it?
Nothing!!
Might as well slam the hell out of them... 'cause if you can't beat THE JOKERS, join the jokers and make a mockery of it ALL...
You just can't argue with IGNORANCE.
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writerbuckeye
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Posted November 24th, 2011 08:48 PM IP
Just playing devil's advocate here, Willard: but nothing says those two things (the league staying together and the two-year notice) can't run concurrently.
Also, I'm guessing if all parties involved end up finding new dance partners and being satisfied with where they're at, there's a good chance everyone could agree to just go their separate ways before your timeline happens.
As for the satire piece: I thought it was pretty funny, being from Crawford County. Yes, there is a lot of "incestuous" relationships in the school community, no question about it.
I would counter that the "big three" in this scenario are: Col. Crawford, BC and Wynford, which were the driving forces to make the change and were the primary schools involved in the first contacts with other schools later.
What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger.
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BeenThereDoneThat
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Posted November 24th, 2011 09:01 PM IP
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writerbuckeye wrote:
Just playing devil's advocate here, Willard: but nothing says those two things (the league staying together and the two-year notice) can't run concurrently.
Also, I'm guessing if all parties involved end up finding new dance partners and being satisfied with where they're at, there's a good chance everyone could agree to just go their separate ways before your timeline happens.
As for the satire piece: I thought it was pretty funny, being from Crawford County. Yes, there is a lot of "incestuous" relationships in the school community, no question about it.
I would counter that the "big three" in this scenario are: Col. Crawford, BC and Wynford, which were the driving forces to make the change and were the primary schools involved in the first contacts with other schools later.
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You ONLY found it to be "pretty funny" because you are VERY RELIEVED that BUCYRUS didn't get shafted like the others!! Right, wb? Well, I guess that makes Bucyrus a bunch of "inbreds, too! Guilty by association!!
You just can't argue with IGNORANCE.
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TornadoWarning
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Posted November 24th, 2011 09:12 PM IP
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BeenThereDoneThat wrote:
But what are we going to do about it?
Nothing!!
Might as well slam the hell out of them... 'cause if you can't beat THE JOKERS, join the jokers and make a mockery of it ALL...
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What goes around comes around...and it's coming around and running Upper and Galion over.
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RoyalNut
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Posted November 24th, 2011 09:51 PM IP
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BeenThereDoneThat wrote:
With that being said, I VERY TRULY wish the BC and Wynford kids the BEST of luck in their state semi games and I sincerely hope that each brings back state championship trophies for themselves! Yes, for THEMSELVES and not for the so-called "leaders" (adults) of their respective schools!
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Thank you for this much (stop it sis) I'm glad you at least (Sis stop it, not now) See that it is not (Oh come on sis, in a minute) The kids playing the games that (Oh ok sis, ok) caused this debacle, Gotta go now.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 10:06 PM IP
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BeenThereDoneThat wrote:
I don't want this to be a situation where people on this site assume that I'm attacking them, Willy.
That's not my intention at all, so I won't get caught up in attacking mulligan. Heck, I enjoy being a "dufus," so mulligan just gave me a compliment!
I will say that my humor is DEFINITELY a backhand towards the people in charge that have made these decisions... ADULTS who have used very questionable tactics to achieve something that WILL greatly affect fellow local institutions... institutions that HAVE (HAD?) made strong COMMITMENTS to the NCC as evidenced by leaving their former tradition-laden league affiliations.
The reason this is going down is due to the tight connections (hence, my "inbreeding" terminology) that 3 or 4 of these schools have because each share so many local graduates (heck, even Coach Ehrseman at Wynford is a BC grad!). They band together and DAMN be to everyone outside of their inner-circle (reason for my use of "bloodlines").
Furthermore, I bet a million bucks that Papa Sheldon isn't too happy about Coach Balogh at Ontario getting shafted in such a manner, Willy!! Right? All conjecture on my part, but I'd bet I'm right!!
But what are we going to do about it?
Nothing!!
Might as well slam the hell out of them... 'cause if you can't beat THE JOKERS, join the jokers and make a mockery of it ALL...
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I thought your tongue in cheek was obvious. Joe and Rob are good friends and talk often....I'm sure they will discuss this happening.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 10:11 PM IP
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writerbuckeye wrote:
Just playing devil's advocate here, Willard: but nothing says those two things (the league staying together and the two-year notice) can't run concurrently.
Also, I'm guessing if all parties involved end up finding new dance partners and being satisfied with where they're at, there's a good chance everyone could agree to just go their separate ways before your timeline happens.
As for the satire piece: I thought it was pretty funny, being from Crawford County. Yes, there is a lot of "incestuous" relationships in the school community, no question about it.
I would counter that the "big three" in this scenario are: Col. Crawford, BC and Wynford, which were the driving forces to make the change and were the primary schools involved in the first contacts with other schools later.
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That was my point. Upper Galion Ontario and Lucas have the runners by the gonads. They will let them go when it best suits their time schedule. I hope everything works out for the ones left holding the others bags ASAP. I'm afraid it might get ugly in the contact sports and I'd just as soon not have to look across the field or court at the runners any longer than I have to.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 10:19 PM IP
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TornadoWarning wrote:
What goes around comes around...and it's coming around and running Upper and Galion over.
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You are ignorant of the two distinct polar opposite happenings.
The NOL had been in existence for FIFTY years when Galion and Upper left. BEFORE the 1st game was played in a BRAND NEW league the President of that league was doing all he could to destroy that NEW league.
Did the NOL President orchestrate the leaving of Galion and Upper???
Was the NOL President doing all he could to destroy the NOL?
Only someone with a limited intellect would think these 2 occurrences were a "come around go around" situation.
(Edited by Willard Fillmore)
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 10:24 PM IP
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BeenThereDoneThat wrote:
You ONLY found it to be "pretty funny" because you are VERY RELIEVED that BUCYRUS didn't get shafted like the others!! Right, wb? Well, I guess that makes Bucyrus a bunch of "inbreds, too! Guilty by association!!
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Bucyrus people must be giddy. They're almost 20% bigger than the next school. The NCC President absolutely had to bring Bucyrus along. He would look even more dastardly if Wynford was the biggest school in The Wynford league.
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Buckeye2B
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Posted November 24th, 2011 10:26 PM IP
Closer to 67 years there WF, since Upper and Galion left in 2011 and played their first seasons in 1944 in the NOL.
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Willard Fillmore
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Posted November 24th, 2011 10:28 PM IP
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Buckeye2B wrote:
Closer to 67 years there WF, since Upper and Galion left in 2011 and played their first seasons in 1944 in the NOL.
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That's all the better yet, 50 was a round number.
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FbFan
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Posted November 25th, 2011 12:54 AM IP
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Willard Fillmore wrote:
It could be FOUR years, the 2015-2016 season, before The Wynford League plays their first game. The OHSAA says a new league(the NEW NCC) must stay together for two years before a school or schools can petition to leave a league. Then the NCC has a Bylaw that says a school must give a 2 year notice to leave. So Upper, Galion and Ontario and Lucas has 4 years to find new members for the NCC or find new leagues to join.
All former members of the MAL and NCC could have as many as 4 years to take abuse before they are set free.
By that time Crestline might lose so many students to Galion and Ontario thru Open Enrollment they could have so few students left that The Wynford League might not want them.
(Edited by Willard Fillmore)
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The new league's first year will be no later than the 2014-15 year. 2012-13 and 2013-14 will be the NCC two year notice years. The OHSAA requirement will be met after the 2012-13 year. They could start as early as 2013-14 if all parties agree.
WF, I think your promotion of "The Wynford League" as the name of the new league goes a little to far.
I know about their 5 year streak and all, but naming the new league in honor of that is not warranted.
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Mr. Green
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Posted November 25th, 2011 06:09 AM IP
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TornadoWarning wrote:
What goes around comes around...and it's coming around and running Upper and Galion over.
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thanks for that update tornado
"without me there is no you" JDW
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purpleandblack
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Posted November 25th, 2011 08:08 AM IP
Northern 10
Wynford
Crestline
Buckeye Central
Colonel Crawford
Riverdale
Seneca East
Carey
Moahwk
Ridgedale or Hopewell
Bucyrus or Elgin
New NCC
Galion
Upper
Ontario
Pleasant
RV
Loudonville
Buckeye Valley
Bucyrus /Elgin/ or North Union
Starting 2014-2015 or 2013-2014 if all parties agree.
Bucyrus/Elgin don't know what league there going to yet. Ridgedale or HL in the Northern 10.. They are fighting over which one...
"The only thing that matters in life is truth."
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tarhe
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Posted November 25th, 2011 08:16 AM IP
Hopewell-Loudon is not even involved in this discussion. They are not going anywhere.
"When all is said and done, there is usually more said than done."
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galion
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Posted November 25th, 2011 08:32 AM IP
No chance in hell Wynford wants any part of H-L.
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Mr. Green
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Posted November 25th, 2011 08:50 AM IP
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Northern 10
Wynford
Crestline
Buckeye Central
Colonel Crawford
Riverdale
Seneca East
Carey
Moahwk
Ridgedale or Hopewell
Bucyrus or Elgin
New NCC
Galion
Upper
Ontario
Pleasant
RV
Loudonville
Buckeye Valley
Bucyrus /Elgin/ or North Union
Starting 2014-2015 or 2013-2014 if all parties agree.
Bucyrus/Elgin don't know what league there going to yet. Ridgedale or HL in the Northern 10.. They are fighting over which one...
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buckeye valley 38.1 mi. 48 min.
north union 38.2 mi. 54 min
loudonville 41.6 mi. 52 min
elgin 30.1 49 min
norwalk 38.6 mi. 54 min
bellevue 46 mi. 1 hr. 2 min
tiffin 38.1 53 min
all times and distances from ghs...not alot of difference. so much for saving time and money.
"without me there is no you" JDW
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