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jumper is money
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 Posted April 1st, 2011 04:34 PM IP   
Wow, OF was more competitive last year than any year in last 5 and they have some decent young kids coming back. It actually looked like Mead challenged his kids and did not accept less than a 100% effort regardless of the score. Of course he may have yelled at little Johnny and Mommy did not like that, right? The Aichholz thing is even worse since it is a member of NR school board instigating things. Isn't the school board supposed to look out for entire student body...not just one kid? If the NR board gets rid of Aichholz will the new coach have to check with the board before he changes defenses or makes substitutions??
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Tiger13
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Posted April 1st, 2011 07:41 PM IP
Sounds like SE.
Can never have enough pitching...
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jumper is money
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Posted April 2nd, 2011 02:58 PM IP
Heard more rumblings that this thing with the NR school board is going to happen Monday at the meeting. I hope the coach is at the meeting to see if these parents have the guts to say what they think to the coach's face. They basically are asking the school board to not renew his contract because they want the JV coach to take over. No offense to the JV coach but he has never coached varsity and they would be removing a coach who in 5 years is about 40 games over .500 and has won the league two years in a row with two totally different sets of players and has not really done anything terribly wrong. I hope the board realizes the precedent they are setting if they do this....and does the JV coach really want to get a varsity job in this manner?
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Lloyd Christmas
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Posted April 2nd, 2011 06:13 PM IP
I think he would definitely take the job but would he dedicate the time that Coach Aichholz does to camps, Summer Leagues, Open Gyms, Elementary Leagues, etc. Also will he change his game plan in a few seasons when his talent graduates or will he leave for greener pastures? Unfortunately Coach Aichholz will probably be dismissed for doing what the silent majority of New Riegel parents, players, former players and fans have truly appreciated these last 5 seasons.
Defense wins Championships. Just ask the STEELERS and PACKERS!!!!!
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jumper is money
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Posted April 4th, 2011 08:49 AM IP
Tonight is the night for NR school board meeting....should be an interesting meeting with quite a few community members in attendance....heard that the veteran NR varsity assistant coach is done if the board removes Aichholz. In his opinion Aicholz is the best coach he has worked with and really cares about the kids...he cannot believe this is going on.
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Behind The Arc
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Posted April 4th, 2011 10:15 AM IP
I would quit too if I was the assistant. Hell, I would step down if I was the JV coach too. Well, a loyal coach would anyway even if his name was to be mentioned as the successor.
The fact we're even talking about this is ridiculous. Of all places, New Riegel.
To Be The Man, You Must Beat The Man!
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sjcctrack
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Posted April 4th, 2011 12:28 PM IP
are the board meetings at the cafe'? i might be interested in going if there are ribs.
Hope for New Riegel, Aicholz doesnt take a MAL job...
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jumper is money
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Posted April 4th, 2011 01:30 PM IP
Aichholz should just sit tight until Columbian job opens up as it seems to every 3-4 years.
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Swoosh10
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Posted April 4th, 2011 06:25 PM IP
There ought to be a changing of the guard on the Board of Education if this happens. This would be evidence enough that they are not acting in the best interests of the students, but rather best interests of Mommy's little boy. Arc has it right, the fact that this is even being discussed makes the NR Board look incompetent. The rest of the board members need to speak up and support Coach Aicholz and make it clear that its just one lone petty person with a vendetta.
And as for the JV coach, I can't imagine he would accept this job. If he does, then you know what kind of person you are getting right from the start.
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Old_HC
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Posted April 4th, 2011 06:28 PM IP
I have been watching this thread and wanted the NR guys on here to keep us updated on this situation with Coach Aichholz. Would be a HUGE loss for NR if they let "Mommy" try to run the show. I always had a great amount of respect for NR but this does not look good for the community over there. Even if Coach Aichholz stays how do you try and coach when you have to think about what "Mommy" wants???????
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Posted April 4th, 2011 09:29 PM IP
The meeting is over......and with large support for Coach Aichholz the board approved him 5-0. We hope this issue is long buried and we can get on with the winning tradition that New Riegel is known for.
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Tiger13
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Posted April 4th, 2011 10:15 PM IP
That is good. Glad to see sense won out.
Can never have enough pitching...
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Old_HC
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Posted April 4th, 2011 10:32 PM IP
Glad to see Coach Aichholz is staying at NR. 5-0 vote for him to stay? What happened to Mommy's "no" vote? With that being said Good Luck to Coach Aichholz and his kids.
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oldgold
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Posted April 4th, 2011 11:03 PM IP
Right decision to keep Coach A. Expectations will be high with this group of talent and I don't think getting blown out by average teams in the sectional will be accepted anymore.
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Behind The Arc
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Posted April 4th, 2011 11:48 PM IP
Should have been a 5-0 vote to get rid of the mommy.
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jumper is money
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Posted April 5th, 2011 12:34 AM IP
Just got a report on the meeting....I guess longtime asst coach gave a nice speech in support of Coach A and blasted the school board for even allowing this to get to this point...old NR basketball coach DeMoss was there too and basically said this was crazy as Coach has won on the court and done nothing wrong....players and parents in support of coach were there too...oddly enough none of the negative people showed their faces which is typical I guess....board was shamed into doing what was right...mommy had the last vote and it was already 4-0 in favor so she voted yes through gritted teeth....whole thing was a dog and pony show for her to try and get revenge and it backfired
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Pfoosman
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Posted April 5th, 2011 02:56 AM IP
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oddly enough none of the negative people showed their faces which is typical I guess....board was shamed into doing what was right...
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I thought this was supposed to be one person's vendetta.
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jumper is money
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Posted April 5th, 2011 11:42 AM IP
Supposedly, the board claimed they got many phone calls both negative and positive about the coach but those negative people were nowhere to be found so yes, it does really look like it may have been the one person. Or the others were not so hellbent on making a change as some may have thought. Good for players and coach that it is over with now as opposed to dragging on in the summer.
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oldgold
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Posted April 5th, 2011 04:46 PM IP
If a parent wanted a change it would be very difficult to come forward in front of the coaches. Unless they knew they could get it done, otherwise they would risk hanging their kid out to dry and no parent wants to put their kid at risk.
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Lloyd Christmas
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Posted April 5th, 2011 09:19 PM IP
Maybe parents should learn to let their kids earn their playing time on their own merit instead of whining and complaining about it. The coach is the one that has their job at stake if they are not successful, so let them do their jobs. I know that there are instances where a coach goes outside their boundries, but this was definetely not one of them. It was a complaint that 'my little boy isn't getting enough playing time, no matter how little effort he gives during the summer and at practice' but then if he doesn't produce a winner the coach loses again.
Defense wins Championships. Just ask the STEELERS and PACKERS!!!!!
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oldgold
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Posted April 5th, 2011 09:57 PM IP
One parent had a complaint about their boy and playing time, maybe two. I believe if you dig a little deeper 90 percent of the parents could care less about playing time and their boys. The real underlying complaints come from 1-8 and 0-4 which I believe is coach A's record against Van Buren with the last three tourney losses coming in embarrassing fashion. No one in NR wants to see it happen with this group, which is the fear. The question, is 18-4? with a loss in sectionals or district semi going to be good enough?
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jumper is money
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Posted April 5th, 2011 10:48 PM IP
Maybe a little history lesson is needed for the parents....NR has made it past districts one time in their history (state in 1993) many of the other years ended with losses to VB or LB (when they were smaller). Unfortunately NR has never fared real well against BVC schools as that league is generally much better than the MAL or the old Seneca County league. This is not a new thing under Coach A. but I agree all NR fans would love to see more success come tourney time. Just not sure getting rid of a coach with a 75-34 record was the way to do it. It seems the parents of the returning varsity players are 100% behind the coach, hopefully the kids who will be joining the varsity will not be getting a different message from their parents? At any rate, this should be a really fun team to watch next year if everyone can get on the same page.
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Posted April 5th, 2011 11:25 PM IP
The MAL isn't very good! I think all the schools have trouble with the BVC or any good teams. Carey, Calvert, and NR were 2-9 vs the BVC, the only wins were versus Arcadia
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Knite Flyer
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Posted April 5th, 2011 11:52 PM IP
Jumper: Only 1 District title EVER for NerGle? I would've thought at least a couple. That 1993 team sure was fun to watch!
Pfoos: 'tis Jumper's data correct?
I am glad to see a parent's agenda get shot down and the coach renewed.
To the Old Fort situ, that's just sad 180 degrees from N.R. Mead did a good job with them and they were/are on the rise.
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Pfoosman
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Posted April 6th, 2011 02:59 AM IP
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Pfoos: 'tis Jumper's data correct?
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I have to say that I can't think of any other district champs right off the top. I know there have been a great many disappointments through the years. The New Riegel game program, if someone has one, is pretty detailed regarding history, I think.
There was a Paul Gnepper, Larry Gase, Bob Schreckengost (sp?), Larry Kinn team that I think also had a fellow by the name of Steve Lucius on it. I'm pretty sure that group won 20 or 21 games at a time when the regular season was 18 games, but I think they lost in the district championship game. I think that was maybe the 1969-70 season. The same group of guys, along with current AD Steve Bouillon and others, won the state baseball championship as juniors in 1969, one year after Old Fort won it. Talk about Seneca County League dominance on the diamond! The basketball coach's name then was Jere Carrick.
I think Rick DeMoss had a couple of district runners-up in his time besides the 1993 state runner-up group. One of them was right around 1980 and the other one was maybe five or six years later. I'm thinking one of those teams was huge -- maybe a Kirian kid or Wank (what really good New Riegel team, boys or girls, didn't have at least one Wank or Wank relation?  )
Between Jere Carrick and Rick DeMoss, a guy named Bud Snyder was coach. They had some high hopes for some of his teams but they usually got knocked out early. One of them in the mid-70s had a Lafontaine (Don maybe? they called him Barney) and a Schalk kid (Steve?). I seem to have a memory of that team getting knocked off in the Fostoria Sectional by an Arcadia team that had only won about four or five games. But it was an Arcadia team with a future -- the group with then-freshman Toby Bickel and others who went to the regional twice a couple or three years later. That's a little fuzzy, but I think I'm right on that.
People used to suggest in those days that the New Riegel teams were great on their dinky floor but when they got on a big floor like Fostoria's in tournament, weaknesses were exposed. I'm not sure I necessarily agree with that. I will say there were an awful lot of really fun rivalries in the old SCL as well as battles between those teams vs. St. Wendelin and, to a lesser extent, Calvert. Calvert was a bigger school by comparison back then.
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Old_HC
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Posted April 7th, 2011 09:29 PM IP
Pfoosman--Thanks for the history lesson. That was a very nice recollection. Its always good to hear about past happenings and seeing what the future may hold for these young kids.
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Pfoosman
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Posted April 8th, 2011 01:05 AM IP
My problem is I've witnessed too much history!  As a result, faces and names start running together and, like I said above, things get fuzzy. It would be best if you regarded that stuff as more of a history overview than lesson.
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Knite Flyer
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Posted April 13th, 2011 12:34 AM IP
Why do I know the name Toby Bickel? Same guy who is now the Girls hoops coach at Port Clinton?
Paul Knepper, as I've said before, was the long time Boys coach at Lakota, when, for a short spell, they were actually GOOD. He lost to Willard (the Flashes' 1st ever win at the Regional level) in 1979.
Was Bouillon the AD back in 1993?
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Pfoosman
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Posted April 13th, 2011 02:45 AM IP
Same Toby Bickel.
Paul Gnepper was JV coach when Lakota had some good teams under Dave Worstein. Gnepper also had a couple good clubs after Worstein stepped aside.
Bouillon is a long-time AD, but when it was that he started in that position, I can't say for sure. My guess is yes, he was AD in 1993. He was baseball coach at St. Wendelin in the late 70s and I think had a team go the regional before he returned to the alma mater. And here's one I'll bet a lot of people didn't know -- the next St. Wendelin baseball coach was Toby Hammond.
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Behind The Arc
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Posted April 13th, 2011 09:16 AM IP
Speaking of St. Wendelin, I was in Fremont on Sunday and was told their is a rumor that Ginnan is out as St. Wendelin's coach, True?
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