butki55
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Just for you as I know you really wanted to here this, you know who you are, though you did say it to begin with.
Nice work... how do you feel about the Run Course reportedly being a whole 2k and even the swim short?
Cant remember, let me refresh your memory.
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neil
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belly ache LOL |
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Toasty
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Fair enough but it was a simple question and still is so I will answer
I still think it is poor event organisation to have an inaccurate course but with multiple turn arounds it isn't easy from an organisers point of view (having learnt more from this years PTC Tri) and I would rather it had been accurate. Having said that it has been raised that they shorten the run slightly at this event as T1 is so long. So if that is to be believed and agree as being a good idea then the run wasn't as short 2k but probably around 1.2k
The swim may well have been 3.8k but the currents, if there were any, may have been in our favour. However I still think it was maybe 200m short.
I made the bike 178.31k by the way with some sections on the wrong side of the road I am sure this accounts for the slight inaccuracy (as did the wind and the rain).
So in answer to how do I feel not that fussed really, I wouldn't like to get it bang on but I would try bloody hard. Be interesting to know from the organisers exactly how they do it. |
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Nick Tippett
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Oh my God, Ironman is amazing!
Full race report to follow but overall an absolutely fantastic weekend, day and race! Over the moon with my times be it on a short course or long course we all swam, rode and ran the same way on the day and earn't our moment on the infamous red carpet.
Memories that will live with me forever. I feel sorry for my grandchildren of the future as I will go on about this forever!
Thanks for all your support, was genuinely looking forward to reading through the forum whilst running as I knew you would all be rooting for us.
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dave
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Fantastic results all round guys, well done to you all, you made the club very proud. Just made me wish I had been there to watch and cheer you all on the day.
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rls
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Great work in Tenby everyone. It was awesome to watch and be a part of. I've put a behind the scenes style review up on my blog at www.bikerunswim.co.uk if you fancy a read. Lots of pics too, but unfortunately not directly of PTC members as I was busy helping in transition every time I saw them. Volunteering for the weekend was a blast, met loads of great people too.
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rls
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I'm looking forward to seeing Eric next. He told me that he had a dodgy calf and was going to walk the marathon. He then ran it in about 3 hrs 41 mins.....epic! I doubt I could run a marathon that fast without the cycle and the swim!
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Toasty
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I have written a race report/book. i have done this for myself in detail in order to be able to learn from the experience and maybe it can help others as well if they choose to read it. So I will do the same as Mark and post it up in parts...
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Toasty
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I have always had this nagging thought I need to an Ironman it bugged me persistently, but I have always said I wanted to do one abroad mainly for the experience and the atmosphere, however reading reports from the inaugural Ironman Wales my thoughts began to change. The final push came when lots of friends from both Plymouth and North DevonTri started to enter. Above all I wanted to see some familiar faces out there and share the experience with some mates. So back in November I offended my bank manager and entered Ironman Wales 2012…
Training
Firstly I would like to say thankyou to all those people who have told me about their experiences and answered any questions I have had (even those who have just given me stick about Ironman) you know who you are and all your comments where useful.
Thanks to Pricey I had a copy of the Fink programmes and I used the volume of the intermediate programme for cycling and running, but as Mark did I swapped the days around to suit myself and I also ignored all the intensities and intervals prescribed the specfics for sessions myself mostly based on pace and power. The only major change I made to volume was some longer second rides towards the meat of the programme 6-4 weeks out from the race. For swimming I used some SwimSmooth session plans that I have from one of their DVDs.
Looking back I think I was correct not to over stress the swimming and knowing that some friends only swim once per week and can get through it helped. I mostly swam 5-6k a week with good consistency. Just the one 4k swim in Tinside in my wetsuit.
Cycling having done the race distance I would in future avoid the distraction of distance and simply ride two 100+ rides on flatter courses and instead focus on ride times of 4-5hrs, but backed up with more quality during the week. On reflection I think I would Bike a little more and run a little less if I am to race Ironman again, however it has given me much more confidence as a runner in training and racing. This has been a big plus for me and I wouldn’t change much in terms of the running going up to 18miles, just over 2.5hrs twice was plenty for me and run/walking my long runs in training worked well to avoid injury and maintain quality in my other training sessions. A regular track session each week helped immensely mainly because of the drills done in my warm-up, the sets done weren’t pushed, 98% effort and only lasted 20mins max. Perhaps 20mins of Bike quality in my training weeks would have made a positive contribution.
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Toasty
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Plan
The plan was fairly normal pre race walk up 3hr before race and finish eating before 2.5hr to race start. Bagel, butter and strawberry jam x2 with some squash to drink and then move on to a 750ml bottle of energy drink til and hour before the start.
Swim was to start on shortest line to first buoy and as close to the outside as I could force myself in order to get clear and then if necessary be able to move to the side to control anxiety, pace and breathing so I could relax into an early rhythm. Once this was done it was cruise control and relax over water and at front of stroke, plenty of time left in the day. This plan got more interesting at the last minutes before the start…
T1 thanks to Nick for bottle of water in yellow bag idea to rinse feet early this worked well as it also gave me a drink til the very last minute to rinse a dry mouth out with. Trainers on and jog over to T1, nutrition in elastic bundles stuffed into top of TriSuit with one tube of energy drinks powder and rolled up arm warmers onto wrists, helmet on and gone.
Bike most of plan was based on power and split up into first 25miles to Angle, end of first loop back to Lamphey, ride to half way at Narberth, finish first big loop, ride to Lamphey, ride to Narberth then the last 20miles. A key part of my plan was sticking to make sure my power for the first hour was less than 190W. In my head I just wanted to ride out to Angle conservatively and relaxed DON’T GO OUT TOO HARD. For the rest of the ride I planned to stick between 170-190W and capped myself at 230W on shallower climbs and to never see above 270W on the big climbs if at all possible. In terms of nutrition it was alternating between Half a PowerBar and x3 ShotBlok cubes every 30mins, drinking High5 Energy drink. I started with 750ml in my aerobar mounted SpeedFil bottle and 500ml carried in a zip tied cage under my saddle. I topped this up with water at 25miles and then used a Powder Tube to refill at half way and again at Lamphey 79miles. 400 – 500ml of fluid an hour.
Run plan was to walk out of T2 and then walk the aid stations from just before and walk through up to a maximum of 1minute, time was there as a deadline to get me going again. I split the run up into the 4laps and simply looked at it as roughly four 10k runs aiming to start at 8-8.30miles and keep my average pace below 9minute miles for as long as possible. On top of this it was again four 10k’s in under an hour. Nutrition was SiS Smart Gels I started with 4 and had two in special needs (Plus bottle of flat Red Bull) if I wanted/needed them. Planned to eat every 30mins from 15mins in and try to nibble through them. Drink water and Gatorade as I walked through the stations and then turn to Coke at Half Way keep going with gels if I could.
All of my race plan was based on running well and I had no time that I wanted to achieve apart from a 3 at the start of my marathon split. I had expected times but these were secondary to the process above and where there as much for everybody supporting me as myself. The swim was under the hour for the swim, but not by too much and for the bike 6 hours plus or minus 30mins depending on conditions.
The recce that Eric and myself did 3 weeks before the race was invaluable in preparation for this race so thanks to Eric for the lift up and dragging my grumpy tired ass around for most of the day and to Erics wife Les for the Coffee and Food! (Although I could never match Eric in the Coffee drinking department!)
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Toasty
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Race Week
The Sunday before the race I have to be honest I didn’t sleep well and the adrenaline, excitement and sense of anticipation reminded me of when I first stepped up to Half Ironman at Wimbleball in 2008. Going into the unknown is a big way to wake up the senses!
One thing I have learnt over the years is that you want to minimise stress in race week and considering the physical and financial investment in this race logistical preparation was very important. Travelling and participating with others and having great support travelling up made this a lot easier.
From 10days out I was confident to knock ‘training’ on the head and simply focus on getting fresh and maintaining a feel for swim/bike/run. I feel I did a good job of this and practicing my taper in terms of massage and training in the lead up to my one Half Ironman this year at Roadford had left me confident, even down to where the magic tape would be placed on the Thursday before the race.
Travelling up was a doddle and quite relaxed having done the recce and the close proximity of the race, even bumping into friends at service stations the anticipation was definitely building. The only slight unknown was the house we had rented for the weekend for Nick, Lewis, Rob, Gwen, Lotty and myself. Turns out it was bloody brilliant, within spitting distance of the run route for T1 and the marathon, seconds away from the beach and a few minutes walk from transition/registration. Cheap as well ☺ We arrived, unpacked the cars registered and got to the briefing with very little stress whatsoever. The briefing was even succint, Nick and Lewis decided to stay for the Pasta Party and Eric kindly offered Lotty and myself a lift back for the short drive to Tenby from the airfield. It sounds like the food was better than I expected but I am glad I didn’t go as I didn’t need any more revving up for the race.
Saturday we were due to rack early so we quickly edited the early swim plan and I got an early run in which was very easy and included a lot of walking chatting to a friend from North Devon Tri. Lewis all went early and we then all regrouped for a quick ride up towards the run turn to settle some nerves and check out the run and descent back into town on Bike. Rob soon pushed on up the hill and Lewis followed in his wheel with his trusty compact twiddling away, Nick and myself hung back and let them play, funny how this echoed a day later. I got a little stressed about racking and decided to go and get on with it after helping Rob put his new tyres on for the second time, great amusement was had by all when we realised the first set were 650 size. My mum, sister and her fiancee had arrived by this time and they gave me a hand carrying bags over. This was simple and the expected queues didn’t exist and it was nice to see some familiar faces from Wimbleball 70.3 and also Richard from PTC volunteering for the race. Time for a sit down and some lunch with family, glad they made me do this I hadn’t eaten enough really. Regrouped with Nick, Lewis and Rob afterwards and Gwen (Robs other half) joined us for a swim recce, main thoughts bloody hell my arms feel loose and this water is super smooth. Some cracking photos on Facebook from Lotty of this.
Over the weekend from these guys and from everybody who had come up to support us including particulary Lotty and Gwen we couldn’t have asked for more help in terms of cooking, cleaning, driving and simply carrying stuff let alone all the shouting, screaming and flag making in support on race day itself. A MASSIVE thank you to these guys and girls.
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Toasty
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The Race
I heard 11 O’Clock chime and I fell asleep, I woke and heard 2 O'Clock chime and fell asleep I woke just before my alarm at 4am and was instantly on my feet. Breakfast went down well and all went to the plan, I was one of the last to put my dry bag in store and had lost Nick, Lewis and Rob whilst we racked our bikes. I made my way through the crowds on the walk to the swim to make sure I got in water with plenty of time for a warm up already having my wetsuit on apart from one arm. Luckily walked on correct side to say hello to my mum, sister and Lotty just as I walked down ramp onto beach.
I entered the water and swam out taking the time to remove my goggle once I had swam out about 100m and look back at the crowds it felt like I was in some sort of ‘Iron’ stadium with people everywhere I looked at cameras flashing and music playing out. At this point I was very close to having an emotional moment and bit my lip, big breath out and swam back in a few minutes before the end of the warm up to make sure I got a good start position.
I got right to the front on the left and then a marshall said you know you are swimming around that boat 100m from the shore and then going left, erm I do now! I swear I heard the heart rate of all of the people around me go up, adrenaline was banging through me now and I took a walk half way up the front of the line to have a look at the start from the other end, but it was miles wide and I walked back to where I was originally standing and set myself up to look like Usain Bolt to my first dive into the water and get across in front of the three people to my left ASAP.
Swim
The anthem banged out, the pros moved forward, the tape gradually dropped and more of a crack than a bang sounded out, everybody around me seemed to hesitate but I swear I broke the land speed record in those first 5m into the water. In I go breathe to the left never been so estatic to see nobody between me and the camera boat in my life looked again lifting head to have a good look, bloody estatic to find myself in 3m of space all around me even found the time to smile and poke my tongue out at the women with the TV camera in the kayak next to me on the way to the first buoy I was on the tails of the pros and went around the first buoy without touching anybody. Mission Accomplished. I grinned from ear to ear for the rest of the swim and my arms still felt as good as the recce the day before. I swam fairly straight and touched arms twice at the first proper buoy before swimming side by side for a bit along the back straight with another swimmer. This didn’t last long and it thinned out a lot after this coming into the beach for the first time I had a few 100m of ‘Flow’ where I was simply in the moment as swimming what felt like perfectly this rarely happens but for those that have experienced this swimming/biking or running you know exactly what I mean. Mobot out of the water to try and let Lotty know I was going round, high fiving the crowd. This was the best bit of my day and then a big shout from somebody as I re-entered, later found out this was Gwen. A swimmer got on my toes immediately and tapped away til we got to the first big buoy at this point I started to pass some swimmers and lost the toe tapper, not that this bothered me I have done it to plenty of people in the past! Along the back straight I passed several people still on their first loop and shouted some encouragement as I breathed and also said good morning to some of the lifeguards on sitting on their rescue boards. I was loving it! Out of the water, velcro on my new wetsuit is bloody strong and this was a bit of faff but made me walk up to my trainer bag which was a good idea anyway.
54.08 – 78th Overall out of the Water/11th AG
T1
I managed to get a shout of my time on the run to transition and the crowds were amazing. Everything went smoothly here and I removed my visor from helmet, partly due to weather, lack of sunshine and rain forecast, and partly for comfort and practicality during the ride. Quick swig of coke from a gel flask to get rid of my salty mouth (thanks for tip Neil) and I was off to collect my Bike via a quick hello to Nick who was also in transition with his bike jersey already on.
Bike
Out onto the ride with plenty of room out in front of the masses. Quick mount and past the one guy who I could see in transition, rode very easy out of town and just made sure I had everything secure on bike and had a quick stretch of my arms, shoulders and back.
The ride out along the first flat section was rolling and into the wind, I just rode easy keeping power down and looking at the nationalities of those who passed me, lots of Germans and Austrians, surprise! Said good morning to everyone who gave a cheer and thanked the marshalls, I continued to do this the whole way round as it helped me to relax and keep my focus broad. I find I am either in the zone or chatting away and I wasn’t ready to try and be in the zone all day as that was a sure fire way to end up mentally exhausted. I found myself riding along with several of the female pros and rode behind Jo Carritt and Bethan Fowler for a lot of the section from Pembroke and through the Military Range as we exited this the first proper pack came past, as they rode on it looked as if they were riding through and off like a Tour De France breakaway… but I had other things to focus on at this point mainly not crashing as this was by far the windiest part of the course. Approaching the beach and dunes there were several sketchy moments with my front wheel doing its own thing, gave myself a big pat on the back when I made it safely into the climb through out through the dunes! One thing that nagged me throughout this section was a slight headache which never seemed to fully go all day.
First aid station done at Angle and was nice to have the out and back section saw a few North Devon Tri members and also Lewis and Rob for the first time. Ride back to Pembroke was great fun on some very slick roads by this time the number of people passing had really died down and I also passed lead female swimmer Natalie Barnard (later to DNF), somewhere along here I also peed all over the bike for the first time, amazed at how much I needed it!
I lost a little time through the next section from Lamphey to Carew down the lanes as I hadn’t recced this part of the route and it was quite technical in places and a fair amount of gravel in middle of lanes. I still felt good though and pushed on all the way to Narberth being caught by Tim from NorthDevonTri as we climbed up into the town. Through the feed station and just after this my stomach started to ache, just like it had at the Dartmoor Classic. I simply resorted to stopping eating for a while as this had worked at the Classic where I just drank water, no water on board bike at this point though. I got on with it and soon started to feel better and nibbled at some drink first and then a ShotBloks. The first ascent of Wisemans Bridge passed easily and luckily on the descent I was cautious unlike the guy in front of me who flew around the steep corner on the first dip down and slid straight into the guy in front who had also crashed. They both got going with some road rash and passed me not long later as we made the descent into Saundersfoot itself. The climb out of here was epic Tour De France stuff I got my name shouted out at the top and an encouraging update on position from Steve Harvey. I was looking forward to seeing some more familiar faces as we passed through Tenby but this was a fast technical section and I completely missed the banners and probably near 20 people shouting for us there, oops.
More importantly I had picked up some water and felt really good going into the wind on the rolling section to Lamphey catching and passing some riders kept happening from now til the end of the bike. This section passed and I was much quicker through the lanes to Carew and then on again for the slog up to Narberth, still felt good though and easy to keep power numbers up on climbs. Once I got to Narberth I knew it was done and then the rain came in and brought a smile to my face, I love running in the rain and then I passed a Spanish Rider who had passed me a LOT earlier with half his wardrobe on, couldn’t help but chuckle everything was going to plan.
As we climbed Wisemans Bridge the ball of my big toe on my right foot ached I grumbled to a spectator who told the guys behind me, looked around its only Lewis and Rob still attached at the hip 80miles after I had last saw them as they approached Angle. We rode and talked down the descent to Saundersfoot and I knew what was coming, sure enough they went away up the climb just like they had the day before in our training ride. Didn’t bother me at all though I was just so chuffed not to have had any bike incidents and that the plan was going to the letter all the way through the swim and the bike, so much so I lost a bit of concentration…
6.22:36 255th Fastest Bike / 22nd AG
T2
Dismounted the bike, wow my legs feel good this really is going to plan, rack bike jog through to tent and sit down between Lewis and Rob. ForQuads on, socks on, shoes on, nutrition in, visor picked up, watch strap picked up about to follow them out the door having made a bit of time, buggar my Garmin is still on my Bike. Chuckle to myself and jog back round to get it and then straight back through the tent and out onto run. Mistake Number 1.
Run
Out onto run finally with Garmin attached, distracted by relief of being off Bike with no incidents and everything going so smoothly I made mistake number 2. Deviating from the plan I ran immediately and got involved in somebody elses race for the first time all day. I ran past Nicks brother Rob and other supporters, I should have walked and said hello. I had a stitch but I kept on running letting my average pace slowly drop from 7min miles down to 8’s, nothing unexpected but I felt good the course was flat and their was a lot of support. Running hard out of T2 is a classic error made by Triathletes and I have worked hard to cut this stupid mistake out in my racing. It has cost me big time in a lot of races and is easily done when you are at the sharp end of a race and there is lots of support around you.
The first mile which includes a lot of flat terrain passed in 8.16, normally on long runs I have dipped into the low 7.50’s starting out so this was about right on the plan for sticking to what I had done in my long runs. Going up the hill my stitch started to worsen and my head went a bit fuzzy, oh yeh start to eat nibbled at first Smart Gel and instantly felt better ran solid the rest of the first lap feeling good even with all the ups and down. I finished the lap with an average pace in the low 8.30’s.
Out onto the second lap and up to the aid station around here mile 8 my stitch started to feel worse and things in my memory don’t become as clear as to what I had eaten or drank. I kept going but the pace wasn’t great and just before I collected my lap 2 band at the second far turn around in New Hedges I made a dash for the portaloos deciding to try and take advantage of no queues. This took bloody ages and not even a fart to be pleased with, just another big pee. I got going again down the hill but still felt bad and stopped again at the next aid station this time I forced something out, pleasant I know and lost yet more time my mile splits for these two stops on what is a downhill section were 10.44 and 11.02 compared to 8.21 and 7.46 on the first lap. I wasted a lot of time here (Garmin shows I was stationery for 3.25 on the run) and should have just kept going, I have needed the toilet fairly frequently on my long runs and this and all the imodium comments played on my mind. I made some bad decisions in Lap2 with these stops and nutrition. Yet I still managed to run through half way in 1.50, I hadn’t looked at my watch at the end of Lap 1 (was 52.05 for 10.16km) and this got me back in the game a little. Sub 4 was still on and from here on in it was about getting on the coke and working hard.
I got it back together well for the third lap realising my errors and trying to take in as much Coke as possible at the aid stations, drinking this after one I walked with and then overtook Harry Wiltshire walking his last lap and got an update on his race where the winner had blown them all to smithereens on the bike. Still my memory is vague on how much I ate during this lap, I know I picked up nothing from the aid stations to eat. I ran this lap in an hour again roughly so maintaining my pace from Lap 2. I was bloody determined to work hard and keep on going through the last lap I knew it would be hard as I had seen a lot of people walking up the hill on their last lap as I had come down finishing my third and my hamstrings had got significantly tighter (bloody hell my running technique must be coming on!).
I ran all the way out to the first corner of the climb, this was pretty steep and I pushed hard to get to the timing strip thinking of people at home on the trackers really helped here. I was starting to feel a bit out of it but didn’t walk for long and set about running up to the aid station on the flatter section of the climb. Swearing and bloodymindedness started to come into it here and somehow I got there, this was it as much Coke as I can carry is going in. I was really dizzy by this point and knew that I wasn’t in full control of where my body was going so walked until I felt the risk of passing out had faded. Once going again I surprised myself and managed to run all the way to pick up the sacred Pink Band that I had looked at in envy as I was running and others were on the final section. This got me smiling I tried some PowerHorse for the first time, I probably should have been braver earlier with this but I had never tried it running but knew that the Red Bull that Huw had given me during the Dartmoor Classic really helped keep me going. I ran back down the hill walking the penultimate aid station and going for some more PowerHorse. I ran well but the last climb up to the turn above the beach I walked. From here on in I felt really good and ran the last full mile in 9.18 (including a short walk at beach turn) having looked at my watch by the harbour I had 6minutes to get a sub 4hr run and pushed on from the guy from Manchester Tri who I had run down the hill with. Looking back I wish I had looked earlier but a lot of the lap was just spent concentrating on not passing out.
I turned left through the arch and into the finishing shoot making sure I had a gap on those around me to get some photos I crossed the line spent having spotted Lotty and my family in the crowd right near the finish. I was quietly happy but it wasn’t the screaming or crying emotion I had expected, much of this had been spent on the drama of the swim and relief at the end of the bike. It was odd to have enough time during a race to have already worked out by the finish line where you had made some errors so there was a small amount of frustration there as well, but mainly relief, happyness and complete fatigue.
4.01:06 480th Fastest Run / 51st AG
Finishing Position 275th and 24th/121 in AG
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squelcher
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Is there anyone on here with a longer race report as I feel toastys was a bit brief ha ha just kidding. Cracking read and makes me more excited for my turn at wales. Well done to you all :-) |
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butki55
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Great read Toasty certainly brought back memories of myfirst.
Again congratualtions to you and everyone who took part, Ironman. |
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Pee
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This Sunday C4 at 6.35am....IM Wales!! |
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The road is long, life is short so hurry!! |
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andy.f
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Quite inspirational to read this, thank you. Fortunatly, as I am now officially the wrong side of 50 my head has more influence than my heart and my target for 2013 is to ride a 100 miles in a day. Hats off to you guys though, well done!
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ChrisH
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Brilliant stuff and a great read, well done to everyone! This has made me very tempted for next year...!! |
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Carl
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Entries for IMWales 2013 have opened this morning.
Sunday 8th September.
Price stays the same - a shade under £400. |
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"If......you can keep your head, whilst those around you are losing theirs......then you clearly haven't grasped the seriousness of the situation!". |
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Toasty
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Woop 11mins into Ironman Wales programme I am on the coverage.
First age grouper near the camera taken a bit sight forward in a blue hat, all clear on my own. |
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