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Topie: Suboxone with Valium
January 11th, 2006 05:18 PM
cc What is this combination? Is this dangerous? Is it providing a high like Heroin?

I read Carol's article re the mixing of these drugs and it sure sounds pretty scary. Knowing my step-daughter she isn't getting them from the same doctors.
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January 12th, 2006 04:26 PM
sharonver Well, supposedly taking any benzo with sub is not a good idea. I take subutex and do take valium with it on occasion. I don't take anymore than one 10mg pill at a time and only when i have severe anxiety. I have had no problems at all with it. I just feel relaxed and less anxious. Also some nights if I can't sleep I take 5-10 mgs of ambien. This also is only take as needed, not often. I am not advising anyone here to follow in my footsteps, I am only sharing my expereinces with you. PLEASE, advise your daughter to be very careful with that combination if she insists on doing it.

Sharon
January 16th, 2006 09:45 AM
mrmichael67 Benzos and buprenorphine are not contraindicated. The problem lies with abuse or misuse. If benzos are misused with buprenorphine, methadone, or any opioid or other drugs, there can be disastrous consequences. Benzos are especially dangerous with alcohol. They have a synergistic effect......1+1=3 or 4.....or more. I learned in rehab that diazepam is basically the solid form of alcohol.....chemically, they are virtually the same.
January 18th, 2006 01:11 AM
Carol
cc.......since when did you SD go on Buprenorphine???

smoooooch......C

January 18th, 2006 01:23 AM
cc I don't know exactly, but if it is true then it was very recently (weeks), she claimed in court that her "new" excuse for failing all of her drug tests is that she's taking Suboxone & Valiums...........who the hell knows what she's really taking or not taking, it doesn't really matter since she's still abusing whatever the hell she can get her hands on.


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February 5th, 2006 05:00 PM
leftty Im not on Suboxone but im on methadone and prescribed xanax. Its really good for my social anxiety. i dont feel that it is bad or that dangerous to mix them as long as you know you tolerence and your dose. I would assume its the same with valiums.
February 8th, 2006 08:29 AM
cc I have been doing a bunch of research into Suboxone & Valium mixes here is what I found:

1) It is extremely dangerous to mix Suboxone with any Benzodiazepin (valium, xanax) as both are Central Nervous System depressant. Taking one or the other is ok but when both are taken it is like a triple whammy on your respiratory system & is the leading factor in the death toll associated with Suboxone. Paricularly if you take too much of the benzo's.

2) Although it is an Opoid, it is a partial agonist opoid & is different enough from other opoids that it does NOT show up as Opiates in drug tests. It shows up as Buprenorphine & must be looked for. ie: the drug test must include looking for Bupe.

3) That even though there are 2 brand names (Suboxone & Subutex) the difference is that Suboxone has the additive Naloxone to help prevent abuse/misuse especially with injecting it. "If crushed & injected the Naloxone will precipitate opoid withdrawal"
Subutex is just straight Bupe. without the Naloxone.

4) "It has the potential for abuse & produces dependence of the opoid-type with milder withdrawal syndrome. Cytolytic Hepatitis & Hepatitis with Jaundice has been observed in the addicted population taking Buprenorphine."

5) On top of all that, they say it is very safe WHEN TAKEN AS PRESCRIBED. That it is, overall, a safe drug when administered correctly.