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Frank the Tank wrote:
My point Ateam, CEOd, and anyone else who is blinded on this subject by their hate of OSU, is that Tressel wouldn't give is shriveled left nut (as CEOd put it, showing what a nice and classy guy he is once again) about RR's SEC bowl game win cuz he has something much bigger, a NC.

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Frank the Tank wrote:
Yes he's happy with just one. He lost both other appearances on purpose!.

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I must admit you were right about your forecasting of the West Virginia football demise. I sent you previous e-mails, in essence, stating you would be proven wrong and how much you irritated me. I was wrong and you were right -- unfortunately.
-- Ronald McKenzie, Jr., Charles Town, W.Va.

Normally, I enjoy getting these rare "you were right, I was wrong" e-mails, but not these. I may root for my game predictions to be right, or some preseason sleeper pick to come true, but trust me, I do not "root" for a coach to fail. If anything, I was cringing like the rest of the country watching Bill Stewart's clock-management debacle play out at Colorado last week, which was only magnified by Erin Andrews' description of "mass confusion" on the sideline.

But I can't say I didn't see this coming, which is why I criticized the hiring in the first place. Say what you want about the way Rich Rodriguez handled his departure, the ill will he generated in that state, etc., the fact is, he was a great coach. You don't win 11 games three straight years by accident.

Among the many anti-RichRod e-mails I received over the offseason, one common theme was that "Pat White made RichRod." Anyone who's watched White this season can see that wasn't the case. He's still a phenomenal athlete, and I don't blame him for West Virginia's struggles in the slightest. I blame the coaching staff that decided to try and reinvent what had been one of the nation's most explosive offenses. You watch the Mountaineers now, it's like they're playing in slow motion, and White is the guy caught in the middle. Is he supposed to pass more? Run more? I don't think even the coaches know.

After all Pat White has done for WVU, I hate that his career is going to end like this. I hate even more that you were right about Bill Stewart. My question is, doesn't AD Ed Pastilong deserve some criticism regarding his handling of this situation?
-- Scott, Morgantown, W. Va.

Yes, yes, a thousand times, yes. That's what I've been trying to tell you guys since January (Scroll to: "But have you ever stopped to consider that your anger is being directed at the wrong party?") Amidst the massive backlash caused by Rodriguez's departure, West Virginia fans got duped into believing the hiring of a career assistant based off one bowl game was in the best interest of the program. As I said then and I'll say again now, it was one of the most short-sighted, irresponsible decisions I've ever seen an administration make.

While it's clear that Gov. Joe Manchin turned himself into the de facto athletic director, the buck ultimately stops with Pastilong, who, in another stroke of genius that was revealed this week, signed off on a six-year contract that requires the school to pay Stewart as much as $4.125 million if it fires him. We're only three games into Stewart's tenure, so it's way too early to even start speculating about such things. The Mountaineers could still produce a decent season, and even if they don't, it would only cause the program more instability to change coaches again so quickly.

But remember that $4 million the school collected from Rodriguez? Might want to put that way for a rainy day.

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ptangzoot wrote:
When Michigan wins a national championship in the current system they can question the validity of the Ohio state NC...

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jake wrote:
It's looking more and more that NC was a fluke, and even questioned it way before the BCSCG against Florida. Although Miami was certainly talented, it did come from the Big East, and was led by Coker.

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Streak23 wrote:
A fluke? OSU dominated on defense and made big play after big play. They WON that game.

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theAteam wrote:

2. A phantom pi call basically handed this game to tOSU. Yes, Miami could have stopped them the play following the pi...but there clearly wasn't any pi there.

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theAteam wrote:
If you say so. I saw the game live (And have the 2002 nc dvd.) and haven't saw pi on that play to this day. I'll check for the holding.

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Streak23 wrote:
OSU was screwed quite a few times in the 4th quarter, including an obvious completion being ruled out.

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Streak23 wrote:
theAteam, I have no idea what you have against OSU or Jim Tressel (even though you say you're a fan)...

BUT, BIG plays WIN BIG games. What Mo Clarett did AT THAT time was a BIG play.

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Streak23 wrote:


Come on now Jake, take the glasses off. This is far out there even for you.

A fluke? OSU dominated on defense and made big play after big play. They WON that game.

What damn difference does it matter what conference Miami came from? They domintaed SEC teams during that run, (Florida) and they were the most talented team for a 3 or 4 year run. The talent Miami had was ridiculous back then. The SEC certainly was NOT the conference then as it is now, so that is foolish.

Again, it doesn't matter what conference a team comes out of, as long as they are good and talented, that's all that freakin' matters.

Heck, the year OSU beat Miami in the NC, Miami destroyed UF 41-16 @ Gainesville.

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TornadoWarning wrote:



Why?

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ptangzoot wrote:


Miami was a solid team that year. Posting victories over 5 Top 25 teams (final polls).

Big East is way down for sure, but using where the conference stands today to measure something in the past is wrong.

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Frank the Tank wrote:
Ateam.. copy and paste a post where you said anything good at all about Ohio State and i'll beleive you are a fan.
Every discussion i'm involved in includes you telling me how overrated they are, or how bad of coaching they are, or they can't win big games etc..

There's a difference between trying not to look like a homer and arguing against "your" team in every single debate.

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theAteam wrote:


I understand you haven't been around here very long and probably haven't read all of last year and the year before that's threads.

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ptangzoot wrote:

The same reason a Michigan fan can question the validity of the NC win over miami.