| December 12th, 2007 04:24 PM |
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| CEO Vogel |
These teams played in a 32 team playoff. That's ridiculous.
D-III is ruining these kids educations by making them play in 5 playoff games to determine a National Championship.
D-III has absolutely ruined the regular season. Games mean nothing in the regular season anymore.
Why do D-III conferences even crown League Champions? League Championships mean nothing.
D-III football does it all wrong. |
| December 12th, 2007 04:30 PM |
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| Buckeye2B |
Only one question...where is gsh211 when you need her? |
| December 12th, 2007 04:33 PM |
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| theAteam |
Yikes lol. |
| December 12th, 2007 04:49 PM |
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| tigeralum01 |
mount union will roll to a W |
| December 13th, 2007 10:14 AM |
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| giffiusmcohio74 |
CEO - how many people do you think actually watch the Div III regular season games? How many do you think actually watch the playoffs?
About the only thing I would imagine most people know is that Mt. Union wins just about every year.
Don't make the Div III playoffs out to be the second coming of christ.
For Div III since they have very little publicity, the playoffs might be a way to get a little notice and attention for recruiting.
But please don't try and compare why Div III has a playoff and why Div I doesn't. It just isn't a good argument in my opinion. |
| December 13th, 2007 11:19 AM |
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| tigeralum01 |
i will be watching the game saturday on tv espn 2 i believe |
| December 13th, 2007 11:25 AM |
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| bbmind |
You can't compare the 2 as there money is the reason for no playoffs not the situation of playoffs/finals testing, etc. There have been some spinsters to try to sell that but we all know the deal. |
| December 13th, 2007 11:26 AM |
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| CEO Vogel |
Quote:
giffiusmcohio74 wrote:
CEO - how many people do you think actually watch the Div III regular season games? How many do you think actually watch the playoffs?
About the only thing I would imagine most people know is that Mt. Union wins just about every year.
Don't make the Div III playoffs out to be the second coming of christ.
For Div III since they have very little publicity, the playoffs might be a way to get a little notice and attention for recruiting.
But please don't try and compare why Div III has a playoff and why Div I doesn't. It just isn't a good argument in my opinion.
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Would you rather me compare the NFL to CFB.
Super Bowl > National Championship game
NFL Playoffs > CFB Bowl Games |
| December 13th, 2007 11:28 AM |
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| bbmind |
Again it's a completely different process. The schools in the BCS conferences are making money hand over foot in the regular season due to a high number of home games and then again come bowl season with the BCS as well as other bowls. It's not going to change or if it does it will be tweaked not re-vamped. |
| December 13th, 2007 11:29 AM |
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| CEO Vogel |
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bbmind wrote:
You can't compare the 2 as there money is the reason for no playoffs not the situation of playoffs/finals testing, etc. There have been some spinsters to try to sell that but we all know the deal.
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You'd make more money with a playoff.
64 teams right now make Bowl Games.
32 Total Games
32 Team NCAA Playoff
31 Total Games
32 Team NIT Playoff
31 Total Games
62 Total Games
A Lot more money can be made with a playoff. |
| December 13th, 2007 11:32 AM |
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| bbmind |
Not with the equity they currently have today. And how many regular season games would you have with a 32-team playoff? That would not make the across the board money currently being shared.
The NIT wouldn't be a hit at all. It's different in hoops with multiple games a week, etc. You wouldn't get people to travel and spend money for a NIT like football tourney and too many teams would only have 4 or 5 home games a year in that scenario as your scenario really lends itself to a 1-week regular season. |
| December 13th, 2007 11:36 AM |
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| CEO Vogel |
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bbmind wrote:
The NIT wouldn't be a hit at all. It's different in hoops with multiple games a week, etc. You wouldn't get people to travel and spend money for a NIT like football tourney and too many teams would only have 4 or 5 home games a year in that scenario as your scenario really lends itself to a 1-week regular season.
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Fine then have them continue to play in those silly Bowls you love
32 Team NCAA Playoff
31 Games
32 Teams in the silly bowls
16 Games
47 Total Games
We don't have a playoff right now for the same reason minorities are not hired as Head Coaches. |
| December 13th, 2007 05:15 PM |
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| giffiusmcohio74 |
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CEO Vogel wrote:
Would you rather me compare the NFL to CFB.
Super Bowl > National Championship game
NFL Playoffs > CFB Bowl Games
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I would say this depends on who you ask.
I could care less about the NFL playoffs unless my team is in it!
But I would watch the CF NC game every year!
My passion is college - not NFL. |
| December 13th, 2007 05:23 PM |
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| bbmind |
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CEO Vogel wrote:
Fine then have them continue to play in those silly Bowls you love
32 Team NCAA Playoff
31 Games
32 Teams in the silly bowls
16 Games
47 Total Games
We don't have a playoff right now for the same reason minorities are not hired as Head Coaches.
What? That's not true. The guaranteed flow of money today's system provides in the regular and post-season is why we don't have a playoff. There is no need for one.
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| December 13th, 2007 06:16 PM |
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| XBellevueplayar |
IF i think about it i'm going to DVR this game and make it into a DVD. Anyone interested in one? PM me if so..... |
| December 13th, 2007 06:33 PM |
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| bbmind |
You would have to read the entire thread, he was being funny. What's not there is the reality the two are different and you can't look and do an apples to apples look. |
| December 13th, 2007 06:42 PM |
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| KABO |
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ToledoFan wrote:
How is it ruining their educations? I bet D3 schools do not go to the away sites to early. They probably leave Friday afternoons, and I know some college football players and they are told to try to not schedule friday classes. Plus, in the D3 playoffs, they don't go halfway across the country to play a game until the semi-finals, maybe the qtr-finals.
How has it ruined the regular season? There are 300+ teams, so only about 10% of teams make the playoffs. That's like D1 having a 12 team playoff.
League championships mean nothing? Tell that to the kids who work their butts off to win a league championship.
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mount probably left sometime wed. afternoon by bus, ncaa wont fly them. In '96 we left in the evening and arrived thurs. morning between 2-4a.m. and left after the game for a dinner at the hometown buffet and drove thru the night to arrive back on campus around 5ish a.m. |
| December 13th, 2007 06:49 PM |
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| tigeralum01 |
im not sure how it works in football, i know with track we could fly if it was over 500 miles to nationals |
| December 13th, 2007 06:52 PM |
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| theAteam |
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XBellevueplayar wrote:
IF i think about it i'm going to DVR this game and make it into a DVD. Anyone interested in one? PM me if so.....
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I was interested in getting that game/series or whatever you made versus Detroit, but you never got back to me with the information. |
| December 13th, 2007 07:24 PM |
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| CEO Vogel |
ToledoFan = A guy that doesn't understand sarcasm. |
| December 13th, 2007 07:26 PM |
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| CEO Vogel |
giffiusmcohio74, you need a lot of help.
Check out TV Ratings, check out the price for advertising.
Super Bowl > CFB NC Game
Why, because people know the CFB NC Game is a farce.
(Edited by CEO Vogel) |
| December 13th, 2007 08:03 PM |
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| KABO |
tiger, i believe that applies also. just a shame that for 1 time they cant pony up the cash. |
| December 13th, 2007 09:07 PM |
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| tigeralum01 |
i would like it would apply since i was at otterbein and in the OAC unless that was a NCAA rule im not sure, but yeah it would be nice to see the guys get to fly instead of taking the same bus ride over and over |
| December 14th, 2007 06:38 AM |
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| KABO |
i believe it was an 8 hour bus ride vs. a 50 min. flight from canton/akron airport to roanoke va. then a 10 minute ride to the hotels |
| December 14th, 2007 10:10 AM |
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| giffiusmcohio74 |
Quote:
CEO Vogel wrote:
giffiusmcohio74, you need a lot of help.
Check out TV Ratings, check out the price for advertising.
Super Bowl > CFB NC Game
Why, because people know the CFB NC Game is a farce.
(Edited by CEO Vogel)
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You know what CEO -- once again, just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean you need to act like a dictating moron!
I stated I didn't personally care for professional football, I like college.
Comparing the two is idiotic!
- You take college players from all over the United States and put them on one team. That team now has a larger fan base in the NFL. Wow - what the !@#$ is your point?
Thinking a 32 team playoff in Div I is a good thing just makes me wonder how clueless YOU are!
The BCS system works. So why not use it and get the top 8 teams and play? Why do you have to pull in 32 teams? It just doesn't make sense. |
| December 14th, 2007 11:00 AM |
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| CEO Vogel |
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giffiusmcohio74 wrote:
The BCS system works.
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:rofl:
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Why do you have to pull in 32 teams? It just doesn't make sense.
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120 FBS teams - Why shouldn't 32 make the playoffs?
D-I Ohio High School Football
115 teams - 32 playoff teams
D-II Ohio High School Football
120 teams - 32 playoff teams
D-III Ohio High School Football
119 teams - 32 playoff teams
D-IV Ohio High School Football
119 teams - 32 playoff teams
D-V Ohio High School Football
121 teams - 32 playoff teams
D-VI Ohio High School Football
121 teams - 32 playoff teams
D-1 College Basketball
340 teams - 65 make the tourney - and they are thinking about expanding the tournament again.
By 2100 Ohio State will have played in a 32 team playoff. Stay alive and see. |
| December 14th, 2007 11:02 AM |
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| giffiusmcohio74 |
Wow! By 2100 eh?
What a waste of time to even argue. |
| December 14th, 2007 11:04 AM |
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| CEO Vogel |
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giffiusmcohio74 wrote:
Wow! By 2100 eh?
What a waste of time to even argue.
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You do know 2100 is less than 100 years away. People have lives longer than 120 years.
If the people in the future are smart enough to have a playoff then why can't idiot's like you get a clue. |
| December 14th, 2007 11:07 AM |
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| CEO Vogel |
You also know how this whole stupid thing works.
We have to mess around with a 4 team playoff for 10-15 years
Then we have to mess around with a 8 team playoff for 10-15 years
Then we have to mess around with a 12 team playoff for 10-15 years
Then we have to mess around with a 16 team playoff for 10-15 years
Then we have to mess around with a 24 team playoff for 10-15 years
Then we finally get the 32 team playoff.
What is the silly wait, we all know what it will be, so why not just do it now? |
| December 14th, 2007 11:21 AM |
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| giffiusmcohio74 |
Once again the "CEO" resorts to calling the people that use his forum names.
Take care! |