| November 28th, 2007 05:41 PM |
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| SivoxII |
What is the procedure & how did you go about it?
(or is it simply a case of contacting Peter)
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| November 28th, 2007 05:49 PM |
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| mod1 |
You go to your CP and look on the left, click on Ban IP Addresses and then enter the IP addy's. |
| November 28th, 2007 05:50 PM |
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| RoyC |
If you already have the IP go into your CPs main page and on the left side under "Setting" the eight item down is "Ban IP addresses" click on that and it opens a window with blank boxes for you to place the IP you wish to ban and then click Save and your are done... |
| November 28th, 2007 06:57 PM |
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| SivoxII |
Thanks Guys! ... you know, in all my time at Exco, I have never even noticed that option, guess it's because we have never encountered the issues we have in the last few days!
Cheers!!! |
| November 29th, 2007 11:01 PM |
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| Hoser |
I do it but it is totally useless compared to on other sites like ProBoards. IP banning on ExcoBoards only stops the person from posting and doesn't keep them off the site. So, I have been told by people here in the past to disable the members email account. Again totally useless as anyone can create multi email accounts and keep joining. IP banning should keep members off your board as it does on ProBoard forums. Doesn't here. It should.
Also I have tried banning a members IP address and someone else on the board says it stops them from posting when I ban that other persons IP. Not sure why. Never could figure it out. |
| November 29th, 2007 11:07 PM |
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| LoneWolf |
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Hoser wrote:
Also I have tried banning a members IP address and someone else on the board says it stops them from posting when I ban that other persons IP. Not sure why. Never could figure it out.
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I can kinda answer that. If the IP you ban is from someone like AOL or such that reuses IP addresses, then when you ban one person, you may accidently ban another. A second possiblity is that the second person may have the same IP due to living in the same house. Is there any possiblily that may be happening? If not, then I'm going to suspect that it's an AOL IP or something along that line.
I know I'd love to see IP banning + Email banning + Username Banning so that we can ban in several ways which helps to slow them down at least.
There are numerous IP Lookup sites where you can find out who the IP belongs to, or who the ISP for a particular IP belongs to. It can help you see where the two different members are from and if they share the same IP Provider, or if they share the same IP to begin with. |
| November 30th, 2007 06:24 AM |
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| bunk |
I thought when you did this, it banned everyone with the same 3 first numbers............. But may be wrong ??? |
| November 30th, 2007 07:03 AM |
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| mod2 |
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bunk wrote:
I thought when you did this, it banned everyone with the same 3 first numbers............. But may be wrong ???
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When you "do" what bunk? IP ban? What? |
| November 30th, 2007 12:37 PM |
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| LoneWolf |
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I thought when you did this, it banned everyone with the same 3 first numbers............. But may be wrong ???
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If you ban by a whole IP, it bans the entire IP.
Example: I ban 194.23.122.32 so anyone with that exact IP is banned.
If you do a Partial IP banning it will ban only part of it. Example: I decide to ban the following IP--Partial. 194.23.122 It will ban all IP's that begin with 194.23.122, so that someone with the following IP will be unable to post. 194.23.122.32 |
| November 30th, 2007 03:44 PM |
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| Hoser |
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LoneWolf wrote:
I can kinda answer that. If the IP you ban is from someone like AOL or such that reuses IP addresses, then when you ban one person, you may accidently ban another. A second possiblity is that the second person may have the same IP due to living in the same house. Is there any possiblily that may be happening? If not, then I'm going to suspect that it's an AOL IP or something along that line.
I know I'd love to see IP banning + Email banning + Username Banning so that we can ban in several ways which helps to slow them down at least.
There are numerous IP Lookup sites where you can find out who the IP belongs to, or who the ISP for a particular IP belongs to. It can help you see where the two different members are from and if they share the same IP Provider, or if they share the same IP to begin with.
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Nope. The IP address I am banning is from someone on Shaw Cable. SO those IP addresses are not supposed to change that often. Example maybe once a year if that because permanent IP address. And I am banning the full IP address, not doing a wild card ban. If the person was on AOL or a phone line connection of any type then I would understand why it might not work.
ANd these two people are both on Shaw Cable but not using the same computer. So banning the IP I want shouldn't be affecting the other member. |
| November 30th, 2007 03:51 PM |
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| LoneWolf |
Ok then. Maybe the clue has something to do with both being on Shaw Cable? *Wonders why that would be, but could it be the problem?*
*tilts head in a puzzled look*
Except that, it's possible that Shaw Cable may not use Static IP's. My Cable/Internet only uses Dynamic (changing IP addy's) If in fact, Shaw does use Static IP's, then you are correct that they should not change hardly ever, if at all. |
| November 30th, 2007 04:20 PM |
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| bunk |
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When you "do" what bunk? IP ban? What?
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Yes, ban an IP is what I was talking about Mod 2. I have just heard this said in the past, i've never banned anyone so i'm not sure how it works myself......... I Just wanted to mention this was all, I didn't mean to cause any confusion with it. |
| November 30th, 2007 05:34 PM |
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| RoyC |
LoneWolf has it correct...I have used it before and it works as LW described... |
| November 30th, 2007 06:20 PM |
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| Hoser |
Even if they do have a static IP address Lone Wolf, this doesn't make sense because why is it that they would both have the same IP and the person I tried banning had that IP several times if not always. lol
Hard to explain what I mean. lol I don't see how every time I ban this zombie's IP address I always end up banning missy2004 from posting. They can't always be having the same IP or always taking over each others IP and I have a Cable company for my ISP and it is a Dynamic IP address as was my IP with another Cable company in another city. Something doesn't make sense here. lol
I am wondering if indeed this missy2004 is the same person as zombie the one I am trying to ban doing the IP banning. |
| November 30th, 2007 06:46 PM |
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| bunk |
Thanks for the help Bro.......... I shoulda left it alone |
| November 30th, 2007 07:48 PM |
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| SivoxII |
Just to add to the discussion.
A recent event on our board has identified 2 people on Shaw Cable using exactly the same IP. The only factor being, the match comes from comparing IP's going back several months, where the current IP of one member, matches the exact IP of the other member's "previous" IP.
Hope that makes sense?
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| November 30th, 2007 09:05 PM |
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| LoneWolf |
Hm...this makes me wonder then if the problem ultimetly lies with Shaw Cable and not Excoboard? There have been other problems identified with Shaw Cable on other forums and websites, so maybe in the end, it comes down to something to do with Shaw Cable and it's not two people sharing an IP, or anything else at all that would normally be seen. It may be that missy2004 may need to call Shaw Cable and see what's going on, if they can idenitfy why one person using Shaw cable being banned is affecting them. |
| November 30th, 2007 09:09 PM |
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| Hoser |
Well yes and no. The point is that I have banned different IP's by that user in the past. Old and new IP's and either way the banning affects someone I don't want it to.
I seriously think that the member is somehow masking (spelling) their IP address on ExcoBoards if that is possible. They may be on Shaw but the correct IP address may not be showing in their posts.
So are you saying that you had 2 people on Shaw Cable on your site too with similar IP's or are you quoting me? lol
Seriously, I would like to be able to figure this out and I am not a dummy but not a super genious with this stuff either. I am pretty good with PC's and offer free PC help on my site and solve many computer glitches and problems for free.
Always lots to learn though! |
| November 30th, 2007 09:11 PM |
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| Hoser |
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LoneWolf wrote:
Hm...this makes me wonder then if the problem ultimetly lies with Shaw Cable and not Excoboard? There have been other problems identified with Shaw Cable on other forums and websites, so maybe in the end, it comes down to something to do with Shaw Cable and it's not two people sharing an IP, or anything else at all that would normally be seen. It may be that missy2004 may need to call Shaw Cable and see what's going on, if they can idenitfy why one person using Shaw cable being banned is affecting them.
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I think you are probably correct. I would like to contact Shaw Cable and find out what is going on. They may be able to help. However I am with Cogeco Cable and Shaw Cable may not want to offer help to me about this. |
| November 30th, 2007 09:21 PM |
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| LoneWolf |
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Hoser wrote:
Well yes and no. The point is that I have banned different IP's by that user in the past. Old and new IP's and either way the banning affects someone I don't want it to.
I seriously think that the member is somehow masking (spelling) their IP address on ExcoBoards if that is possible. They may be on Shaw but the correct IP address may not be showing in their posts.
So are you saying that you had 2 people on Shaw Cable on your site too with similar IP's or are you quoting me? lol
Seriously, I would like to be able to figure this out and I am not a dummy but not a super genious with this stuff either. I am pretty good with PC's and offer free PC help on my site and solve many computer glitches and problems for free.
Always lots to learn though!
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It is entirely possible that someone is masking their IP and that this is causing a problem down the road for someone else who is a legitimate member with a legitimate IP. In MY opinion, those who feel the need to mask their IP's are up to no good anyways. Most people who are masking their IP's, are doing it to get around a ban on forums and websites, and other things that show they are up to no good.
I belive that just recently, Siv had the same or a very similar problem with two people who use Shaw Cable.
As to you contacting Shaw, I would think you could and let them know you are an admin of a message forum and the problem that is being encountered trying to ban one person and it affects others who also use Shaw Cable. At least it can't hurt to talk to them, regardless of who you use. |
| November 30th, 2007 09:32 PM |
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| bunk |
From all the stuff i've seen, i'm cerntainly glad I dont have to use " Shaw Cable" as my internet provider :D |
| November 30th, 2007 10:24 PM |
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| Hoser |
Yeah I think I will call Shaw Cable Lone Wolf. Oh yeah, the person is definetly up to no good, that is why she has been banned numerous times. But as I said, the IP banning even if I did have her correct IP address banned, she could just keep rejoining the site and knows that so she does. She was a staff member way back on our site. I think the IP banning should keep them off the site, PERIOD. Not just stop them from posting.
bunk,
I don't think that Shaw Cable is neccesarily a bad ISP. It just so happens they have some jerks using them. lol Could happen with any ISP. |
| November 30th, 2007 10:30 PM |
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| SivoxII |
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I seriously think that the member is somehow masking (spelling) their IP address on ExcoBoards if that is possible. They may be on Shaw but the correct IP address may not be showing in their posts. |
VERY INTERESTING!!! .. The whole "IP Masking" issue was mentioned to us as a possibility too. We "think" one of the member's IP's matched another user's IP a long while back too???
I think Shaw may be partly responsible in how they are set up, but in our case, I can't rule out any devious undertakings from one of the members in question.
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| November 30th, 2007 10:46 PM |
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| bunk |
Yea, we have a really bad one here called " Road Runner ", it is a less than desireable internet service ( if you will ) the majority of computers that I repair has been connected to it...........
I wish you all the best with your Shaw Cable internet service :D :D :D |
| November 30th, 2007 10:56 PM |
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| SivoxII |
Keep in mind bunk, Shaw aren't some small backstreet company, they cover most of Western Canada & there are rumours of future cover in some parts of the States.
Here are three little words, which could play a BIG part in this discussion: "Anonymous Proxy Server"
Incidentally, what kind of hardware repairs do you do bunk? |
| December 1st, 2007 01:09 AM |
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| bunk |
Oh,I dont want to be mis-understood Siv, sorry for the confusion.............
I have not gotten into hardware repairs a great deal. All the computers they bring me have software / operating system probs. Most of the time they are loaded up with spyware, and or trojans / viruses....... and then some...... People are just amazing :D :D :D :D :D
I'm not trying to under rate your provider by any means man. To each their own, and I am fortanate that I have access to a superior IP.
You and I have had other compatibality issues before, so it seems that our systems dont work together properly.
Now, I have a question for you:
Do you run a computer shop ? Or just design buttons / headers ? |
| December 1st, 2007 02:12 AM |
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| Koyana Nuva |
People can reconfigure their IP's, so watch yourself. :) |
| December 1st, 2007 03:20 AM |
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| SivoxII |
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OH! god no!! :D :D :D .... I'd have to send myself an e-mail to turn up for work in time, actually, I would probably run Autoroute or Map Quest to remember the way there!! :D
In all seriousness though, I run a Sole Proprietor Design/Desktop Publishing business. My Button making is just a bit of fun & escapism (and produces far less headaches than the alternative) |
| December 1st, 2007 09:02 AM |
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| portyporty |
I asked for IP banning to mean the person couldn't read the board at all many moons ago. We have a real pain in the ass who has several IPs all banned but it doesn't stop him, we use sitemeter and it looks as if he has our forum as his home page, how sad is that. |
| December 1st, 2007 04:24 PM |
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| SivoxII |
That's a real shame portyporty!
Wish there were other 'definate' measures you could take to give you piece of mind. |