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March 22nd, 2009 10:16 AM
kittikat Okay so i just signed with an Agent last month and found out she was submitting herself for the same roles she submitted me for.
Not only that but I found out she submits herself and not me for things I know I am better suited for than she is. :rolleyes:

Is this normal or have I walked into a big problem with this Agent.

Thanks for any advice or help with this situation.
March 22nd, 2009 10:20 AM
ChrisKanakis uh oh...kittikat.. MEOW

and again... I just want to say that finding the right agent for yourself takes a long time. I had 3 or 4 agents in Georgia and NONE of them ever got Me anything. I still really don't have an agent. Hopefully one day the right one will come along.
March 22nd, 2009 11:17 AM
rome No. Your agent should not be submitting themselves for projects. They should have an agent of their own. They should not be competing with their clients, it sounds like your agent needs to decide if they are an agent or an actor -- it is quite honestly a conflict of interest.

I know there are some local agents who participate on this board who enjoy doing extra work, student work and lo/no/deferred work -- that is such small potatoes acting wise really to consider that a conflict would probably be petty. But if they are submitting themselves for principal, supporting and lead parts for projects casting through the major casting directors in this region -- that is using inside knowledge for personal gain and is a conflict of interest. It would be especially troubling if they were not submitting their talent for those roles which would in fact lessen their competition, but also create an unhealthy environment where the talent was legitimately not being seen that should have been seen -- because that leaves no one protecting the interest of the talent. Before rushing to judgement though you have to do an honest assessment of whether you are ready for the audition or really fit the breakdown. If there are people in your agency (agent aside) who are more ready or fit the breakdown better, those would be legitimate reasons why your agent may not have submitted you.
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March 22nd, 2009 12:46 PM
June L
Quote:
kittikat wrote:
Is this normal or have I walked into a big problem with this Agent.

Thanks for any advice or help with this situation.


NO ... this is NOT normal protocol for an Agent. You are very discerning, Kittikat ... to SEE through ... your Agent's self-serving motives. :rolleyes:

Rome, certainly hit ALL points! ;) A purr-fect answer.

Let me just add: it's always been my opinion, an ethical Agent does NOT cross the line ... by submitting themselves as an Actor.

Seriously, a "conflict of interest" to book a role ... in place of ... one of their Actors !?$$?!

If an Actor becomes an Agent, they should be: on the Agent level ... NOT, compete with their own Actors! My Agent believes, an Agent ... is ... an Agent ... and, nothing else! amen.

Hope this helps!

My (2) cents,
;)
June
March 22nd, 2009 01:39 PM
awtalent I totally agree with Rome and June.

For those who have children represented, it is my opinion that it's a conflict of interest for children of agents to be submitted by their parent or those they work for.

I have recently seen a commercial that a talent is in, that child is represented by an agency that his/her parent works for. Now, I'm sure, that they would claim that someone else in the office had submitted the child, but still, it is crossing the line. It may be somewhat acceptable if the agency were submitting from their "pool" of talent, but that's is apparently not happening. "Preferred Selection" is a disgrace.

I met a woman who's daughter was in a film in LA w/ Andrew. She worked for an agent, her daughter was rep'd by a different agency - No Conflict.
March 22nd, 2009 05:20 PM
momaddydrew I would see that as a huge red flag.
I too have a problem with Agents that are also actors, not just that they are competition for their own talent, but when they are working, how are they working for you?
March 22nd, 2009 06:47 PM
Jack Stecher Who you have as an agent should be a personal thing.
If you are not happy with your agent for any reason that is your right and you should make your decissions accordingly.
If people are happy with their agent and they are doing something that does not bother them then that is great for them.
But do not tell some one they should not like their agent because that agent may do something you do not like.
And if you are not happy with your situation then take control your life and not some one else's
The truth is it is easy to blame an agent for you not gettting a role. That is so much easier than taking classes, practicing, taking non paying roles and reading text books. News flash an agent can not get you a role. An agent can only submit your resume and head shot. Unprofessional head shot, weak resume or NOT THE RIGHT LOOK will keep you from getting the audition, not competition from one more competator.
March 22nd, 2009 10:57 PM
JoanSchuermeyer If your agent is auditioning the same part as you or not submitting you and going herself, it's time to look for another agent.
March 22nd, 2009 11:15 PM
kdavis [quote]rome wrote:
No. Your agent should not be submitting themselves for projects. They should have an agent of their own. They should not be competing with their clients, it sounds like your agent needs to decide if they are an agent or an actor -- it is quite honestly a conflict of interest.




I know there are some local agents who participate on this board who enjoy doing extra work, student work and lo/no/deferred work -- that is such small potatoes acting wise really to consider that a conflict would probably be petty. But if they are submitting themselves for principal, supporting and lead parts for projects casting through the major casting directors in this region -- that is using inside knowledge for personal gain and is a conflict of interest. It would be especially troubling if they were not submitting their talent for those roles which would in fact lessen their competition, but also create an unhealthy environment where the talent was legitimately not being seen that should have been seen -- because that leaves no one protecting the interest of the talent. Before rushing to judgement though you have to do an honest assessment of whether you are ready for the audition or really fit the breakdown. If there are people in your agency (agent aside) who are more ready or fit the breakdown better, those would be legitimate reasons why your agent may not have submitted you.
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Just FYI I do not submit myself for any principal work. Only student, no low, extra or deferred. Ghost our other agent/owner has his agent submit him for other projects. We also have pictures of all of our talent on our website so everyone will know who is in their breakdown area. I do not know what agent you may be talking about, nor do I need to know. I just wanted to make sure that nobody thought you were talking about our agency even though I know you are not one of ours.

I personally think it has helped us in the development of our agency in just two months to both be actors because we have an actors perspective. Also to me as a talent you should be made aware of when and what you are being submitted for.
March 23rd, 2009 12:31 AM
Discoveries If ever there was a post on here that applied to me, it was this one, although not in the way the following posts have been shared, only as an Agent who is an Actor as well.

And if ever there was a response that needed to be given, it’s this one too.

And to June, who will think I’m being “defensive” again, the statements below are not coming from emotion….JUST THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS….

1) I am an agent who self-submits, however NOT for roles my talent auditions for! When there is a casting, I submit all of my talent that wants to be submitted. If there is a role that I personally am interested in, I wait until all of my talent shares their desire to audition. If anyone wants to audition for something I did, I do not and submit them only.
2) I do not act and model because I choose to be in competition with my talent. I act and model because I enjoy it, gets loads of leads on projects FOR MY TALENT when doing it, and because since my agency is my only business and I have no other means of financially supporting myself, and also need money to run my agency with, feel this is the one thing I can do without having to have a full time job elsewhere and run it “part time” like other agents do.
3) I WAS with an agent, Talent One, for 7 years, and as soon as the owner found out I had started my own agency, they chose to cancel our contract and refused to represent me any longer. I would never have sent “my” talent to the auditions they would submit me for because I feel that would not be ethical, however, their decision was final and I had to accept that. At that point, I actively looked for an agent to represent me but no one would BECAUSE “I” WAS AN AGENT !!
4) My submitting myself for work is not a secret. Each and every one of my talent knows I do this and if they had a problem with it, I know they would tell me. They faithfully tell me when anything else I do bothers them ! LOL
5) When I am working on a movie or commercial set, I do not solicit business, pass out business cards or try to take talent from other agents. To me, this is not ethical and I’m not about to be like “others” in this business that do this every chance they get.
6) Every producer, director, casting director or member of a production crew knows what I do and although in the beginning, they question my motives thinking I submit against my talent, once they find out I don’t, they then don’t mind and have no problem working with me….as talent….or as an agent.
7) Out of the nearly 200 talent I represent, I have 5 in my age range and only 1 with the level of experience I have in this industry. 4 of these are African American and live in states other than North Carolina, therefore there is no competition, especially, when, as I said before, I would not submit myself for roles that they would.
8) My photos are not on my web site and I even removed my head shot from my talent books, after Lisa Fincannon told me that she didn‘t like the idea, and I respected her opinion and appreciated her sharing her feelings with me.
9) Although I have three very marketable sons who have been modeling and acting since they were newborns (including a set of identical twins), I do not represent them nor would I ever, since I feel I would be doing them a disservice not submitting them for roles my talent wanted to be submitted for and my talent would always have to come first.

For those of you on this Board who don’t like me or approve of my methods of doing business (and we all know who you are), I really don’t care what you think of me. As long as God, my husband, the talent I represent, and the industry professionals I work with respect me and approve of what I do, then I am fine, my conscience is as clear as a bell and I will continue to do what I am doing since it’s working for me AND my talent.

I work hard, (seven days and nights a week), put my talent and their needs FIRST and often don’t even take an earned commission if I feel my talent was paid too little for a job to begin with. I run my agency reputably, honestly and legally, pay my dues and for the licenses to operate my business and can go to bed each night knowing I have not taken advantage of anyone, badmouthed anyone or hurt anyone’s feelings. I also don’t charge any fees to be with my agency, to be on my web site or to take my acting classes. (This is more than I can say for other agents out there that may not submit themselves for modeling and acting jobs but some of whom certainly don’t put their talents’ best interests and careers first and who are always thinking about making THEIR dollar before their talent makes theirs!)

There are good, reputable agents here in North Carolina that have been in this business a long time, know what they are doing and choose to run their business a certain way. (We all know who they are) Although they may not agree with what “I” am doing, I hope they would respect me enough to appreciate the fact that in addition to doing all I can to help my talent fulfill their dreams of being “discovered“ one day, I am also trying to make a living as well and as long as I do that morally, fairly and legally, who should have anything negative to say about how I run my business??

Just “MY” two cents worth……..
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March 23rd, 2009 07:15 AM
GreyGhost Okay I gotta say this........................What's the difference if you are competing with your agent? You are ALWAYS going to be competing with more seasoned actors at any audition. CDs will not give your agent any special attention just because he or she is a talent agent. What you SHOULD worry about is if your agent submits him or herself for an audition and DOES NOT submit you as well.

I have had agents in the past who submitted themselves for some of the same projects that I was submitted for. That never bothered me. I just look at it as one more actor auditioning for the role. No biggie.

I know that it bothers some folks which is why I have my own agent to submit me for auditions. BUT what's the bleeding difference? If I were to submit myself or have MY agent do it..............I am still auditioning for the same role.


Ghost
March 23rd, 2009 08:51 AM
clcorrigan Ghost said it best - there will always be competition, and our only worry should be that we are not being submitted at all.
I assume that if the actor lands the job, commission is still being paid to the agent, and that's really why they submit anyone at all.
Its all about money, and talent should not be so sensative.
March 23rd, 2009 09:11 AM
rome What I picked up on her post was her note that her agent was submitting herself/himself RATHER than submitting talent -- which is a huge no no if that is the case. But I also cautioned her to look inwards as to whether she was submittable in those instances.

Kim, I'm thrilled to hear you only submit yourself for no/lo/deferred/student work and that Ghost relies on his other agent for work other than that. Janine -- we all know you enjoy doing extra work. Those things are hobbies -- you do them because they are fun. And to pick on you for that would be petty. What would be a conflict of interest is submitting yourself in competition with talent who rely on you to represent them to companies like the Fincannons and Chez, especially if you were to do that and not submit the talent you represent circumventing their representation. But again, like I pointed out and Jack pointed out there is not substitution for having professional marketing tools in place, a strong resume and good valuable continued training. If the talent isn't doing that first than she/he should be looking at themselves squarely first before placing blame elsewhere.

I don't think anyone should have their panties in a wad if their agent is submitting themselves for hobby projects like no/lo/deffered and student or even extra work. If that's what prompted her question than this shouldn't go any further. If her question was about real work then and she is a serious contender, her agent is voilating her trust.

Janine -- I don't know you and certainly can't point any fingers at you. When I said there were agents on this board, etc... it was because I knew there were agents here who submitted themselves for extra/no/lo/deferred work -- you included -- and I really don't think anyone should be upset about that. That really is for hobby/enjoyment and there is not monetary gain for the most part from that work. That was all I knew that you did so there were no other judgements about you personally in my post or Kim or Ghost -- just that I knew you did that category of work and that I thought any finger pointing about that was petty. I know it takes years to be an agent successfully, it's for the most part a losing proposition until you get clients booking commercials and industrials with residuals attached. Movies do not make agents money on the East Coast although they are what the talent wants to do and they are fun to book and be able to have on your roster later. I'm sorry if my response hit to close to home for you, I do not know you and that was not my intent. If you do not submit yourself against your talent than you are obviously not who she is talking about and all of this is moot.
March 23rd, 2009 09:20 AM
emorgan_voiceovers It is plain and simple: A conflict of interest. I don't care what any agent says, or how they try to justify it. Yes there is competition involved, but it most certainly should not be with your agent. The agent needs to make up their mind: Do they want to be talent, or represent talent? No matter how you slice it, it is wrong.
March 23rd, 2009 09:38 AM
rad2828
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emorgan_voiceovers wrote:
It is plain and simple: A conflict of interest. I don't care what any agent says, or how they try to justify it. Yes there is competition involved, but it most certainly should not be with your agent. The agent needs to make up their mind: Do they want to be talent, or represent talent? No matter how you slice it, it is wrong.

"sighs" :rolleyes: OK im sure we have answered her question by now. If someone feels any certain way about something im sure sure not going to change there mind over the internet. Seriously.....now people are going back and forth about should agents be talent. I mean C'mon your not going to change someone's mind about there career path. most of us are adults here and can see her question has been answered so we should all just drop it because your not going to change the other halfs mind.


....Just a thought before this topic gets black listed.
(Edited by rad2828)
March 23rd, 2009 09:48 AM
Carolines Mom Kittikat: How do you know your agent submits? Did they tell you ? Did you see them at an audition? Were they being deceitful about it or were they open and honest about it? It's no secret that my daughter's agent works in the business too. It's common knowledge to everyone around her that she does.

Even though I read this site daily, I've stopped posting on here because of the negative replies my comments have brought to this board, however this morning when I read these posts I had to respond, since Janine is my daughter's agent and since I felt she was personally being criticized for her beliefs and reputability. Since she has repped my daughter, I have seen her go to the max for her talent. She has been to auditions - for a moms role - that my daughter was at and frankly knowing how she looks after her talent, really wanted her to get booked so that she could personally work with my daughter and look out for her on the job. I have asked her for business cards to pass out to other moms at a shoot or casting we both were at and she refused to and said 'when I'm acting, I'm not an agent'. The few times I've seen her on a set with her talent, they seem to love her being there and working with them and I personally know of one time she was telling me about wanting to try out for a commercial in Wilmington. Weeks later I asked did she get the part and she said to me "No. I didn't audition because at the last minute one of my talent decided to audition and I don't play that game. It's either them or me but not both." So, I have first hand experience about her morals and ethics. So, those of you here that don't approve of what she's doing, what do you feel she should do ? Give up her income and dreams in this business just so that her talent can make money and have theirs fulfilled? She's doing both and as far as I'm concerned, a better person for it too. I hope I'm not the only person with her agency that will respond here and come to her defense, but if I am, at least I am proud to be standing up for someone I respect and who has turned my daughters dreams of acting and modeling into something real and not just hoped for. To date, I haven't spent a dime to be represented by discoveries but my daughter has gotten work, feels better about herself, is doing beter in school, is making a little money from her jobs and learning to save a dollar, and as a mom, that's all I care about.
March 23rd, 2009 10:50 AM
GreyGhost
Quote:
emorgan_voiceovers wrote:
It is plain and simple: A conflict of interest. I don't care what any agent says, or how they try to justify it. Yes there is competition involved, but it most certainly should not be with your agent. The agent needs to make up their mind: Do they want to be talent, or represent talent? No matter how you slice it, it is wrong.


So by that line of reasoning Rat and I should just shut this board down, make up our minds, and concentrate on acting. Because we are in effect acting as your free agent by supplying information abour auditions here. Hmmm. Something to think about.
March 23rd, 2009 10:52 AM
GreyGhost
Quote:
June L wrote:


NO ... this is NOT normal protocol for an Agent. You are very discerning, Kittikat ... to SEE through ... your Agent's self-serving motives. :rolleyes:

Rome, certainly hit ALL points! ;) A purr-fect answer.

Let me just add: it's always been my opinion, an ethical Agent does NOT cross the line ... by submitting themselves as an Actor.

Seriously, a "conflict of interest" to book a role ... in place of ... one of their Actors !?$$?!

If an Actor becomes an Agent, they should be: on the Agent level ... NOT, compete with their own Actors! My Agent believes, an Agent ... is ... an Agent ... and, nothing else! amen.

Hope this helps!

My (2) cents,
;)
June

My Agent believes, an Agent ... is ... an Agent ... and, nothing else! amen."

Those that can DO. Those that can't Teach. Those that can't do either becoms agents........and NOTHING else. :)

"
March 23rd, 2009 11:26 AM
kdavis
Quote:
GreyGhost wrote:


So by that line of reasoning Rat and I should just shut this board down, make up our minds, and concentrate on acting. Because we are in effect acting as your free agent by supplying information abour auditions here. Hmmm. Something to think about.


You guys are acting like VOLUNTEER HUMAN SERVICE workers by operating this site. You do this site and get nothing in return... except for the intrinsic reward your receieve when you help others. I do wonder what would happen if so many people were not able to access this information? Interesting it is?
March 23rd, 2009 11:28 AM
TaraNicole Ok,

I am not sure when people stopped eating veggies or taking ginko supplements....but for some time now the overall atmosphere on here has been a bit dreary.

I think it's helpful to share knowledge with others and to a degree opinions are useful also...but too often I see it get nasty & personal.

1) Accept your own choices and hold yourself accountable. Don't blame others for your choices.

2) Research your agent & choose one that suits your needs best. America is a melting pot of people and ideas. No 2 people will have the same needs or expectations. Choose representation that works for YOU. I was my child's agent for 9 years. I only recently chose to work with an agent, when after many, many years of looking...I found an agent who's core beliefs meshed with mine. Many people on this board are signed with agencies I would not sign with because I didn't care for their policies on paying to be on a website or charging administration fees etc.

I wouldn't then, nor would I now say the agency (agencies) isn't (aren't) worthy or that you shouldn't be repped by them. Simply that it (they) is (are) not a good fit for ME. As an intelligent person, I can form an opinion, on my own, based on facts that pertain to my life. Those facts will be different for you, thus your outcome may be different. We should agree to disagree.

SO - my point 2 is that agent A make be great for you & the 80 people on their books, but not for your next door neighbor or 70 others. An agent is a personal choice and not one we should trash each other on. This type of behavior is Middle-Schoolesque and solves nothing.

In closing, I would like to say two things; First, that Ghost & Kim are wonderful people who go above and beyond for everyone on this board...most of whom are not in their agency. Yet they post things daily here for the benefit of all. Maybe I am old fashioned, but I would say "THANK YOU" is far more appropriate than "don't submit yourself for an acting job."

Second, I have personally worked with Janine on set. Half way through the day I felt like I needed a geritol infusion to keep up with her. She is passionate about her clients and their success. She never stopped working for her clients from 8am - to 8 pm when I finally left. I know she continued after I left, as I received about 4 e-mails with updates later on that night.

Janine does not submit for roles when talent in the same BD has. She works tirelessly for her clients and to even imply otherwise is reckless.

I like to think of a community of actors much like a group of shipwrecked sailors...we are all out in this unforgiving sea together. We can all help each other survive & thrive and everyone wins, or we can all tear apart our liferaft and we can all drown.

So what do you all say to eating our veggies, getting some sleep and playing nice at recess?

Peace +

Jen
March 23rd, 2009 11:50 AM
Buffjedi
Quote:
kdavis wrote:


You guys are acting like VOLUNTEER HUMAN SERVICE workers by operating this site. You do this site and get nothing in return... except for the intrinsic reward your receieve when you help others. I do wonder what would happen if so many people were not able to access this information? Interesting it is?
I can tell you without this site, I would be lost....well, more lost than I already am. Rat and Ghost have gone above and beyond as far as I am concerned and I thank them. They both have helped me out tremendously.
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And besides I'm more talented than my agent ;) :p


Buff, ducks and runs for cover .......................................
March 23rd, 2009 11:53 AM
Buffjedi I should also say that I have learned a lot on this board from other members too. I may not always agree with what people on here say, and they may not agree with me on what I say...But I respect their talent and knowledge and appreciate the time they take to share.
March 23rd, 2009 11:57 AM
June L
Quote:
emorgan_voiceovers wrote:
It is plain and simple: A conflict of interest. I don't care what any agent says, or how they try to justify it.

Yes there is competition involved, but it most certainly should not be with your agent.

The agent needs to make up their mind: Do they want to be talent, or represent talent? No matter how you slice it, it is wrong.


I agree, EMorgan ...

And, those who cross the line ... know, they're doing it (unethical territory).

One may try to "sugar coat" it; but, TRUTH will prevail.

I rest my case. Use your own discretion ... to make, your own choice.

This thread has been very REVEALING ... and, is helpful to those who need their "eyes open". Amen.

My (2) cents,
;)
June
March 23rd, 2009 12:04 PM
sileshell I agree with Tara Nicole. I have been represented by Janine for about a month now and I am loving it. I knew that she did extra work on movies and that did not bother me at all. I beleive that if you have the talent to get the role that you will get it. You have to put yourself out there and hope for the best.

Ghost- without this board I would have never gotten to where I am today and I am thankful of you and everyone who has helped me with answers to my questions. I hope you dont shut it down because I love the advice and reading all the responses. yes, some people do get a little negative. But, for the most part I have been treated very nicely on this board and I hope it stays that way.

Keep your head up and a smile on your face!
March 23rd, 2009 12:24 PM
kittikat Thank you all for the response to my question.

I signed with her ( I prefer not to mention her name or her Agency in ATL) to get work in ATL since leaving Florida


Now the reason that I know she is submitting herself for work is that a friend emailed me the break downs for a commercial that she had been submitted by her Agency and had an Audition time booked.
She thought that I really was right for the second female character so I sent an email to my agent and asked if she had or would submit me for the Commercial
Her response was that she had submitted all of her talent but that none had been chosen for the Commercial Audition.

Now I accepted this as we all know it's up to the casting director's decision who they will or won't see.

Here is where it got wierd I went down with Sara to offer moral suppport the day of her Audition and in walks my agent for the role that I asked her to submit me for.

When I asked her she smiled and said sorry those are the breaks in this business and I should know that by now.

I have never been so insulted in my life or had to deal with a situation like this and felt then and even more so now after the great response that an Agent/Agency should not be competing for work when they are supposed to have your best interest at heart.

I cannot understand how this could be considered normal and will be informing my Agent today that I will be leaving her effective immediately.

Thanks Again for the great help that this site provides.
March 23rd, 2009 12:42 PM
June L
Quote:
kittikat wrote:
Thank you all for the response to my question.

Here is where it got wierd I went down with Sara to offer moral suppport the day of her Audition and in walks my agent for the role that I asked her to submit me for.

When I asked her she smiled and said sorry those are the breaks in this business and I should know that by now.

I have never been so insulted in my life or had to deal with a situation like this and felt then and even more so now after the great response that an Agent/Agency should not be competing for work when they are supposed to have your best interest at heart.

I cannot understand how this could be considered normal and will be informing my Agent today that I will be leaving her effective immediately.
Thanks Again for the great help that this site provides.


Thanks Kittikat,

For sharing that BAD experience ... that OPENED yo' eyes ... to reveal ... what your Agent was doing behind your back! :eek:

Tell her: "Those are the breaks, Sistah!"

Congrats for removing ... yo' rose colored glasses! :cool:

Supportively yours,
:D
June
(who stands for TRUTH & Excellence)
March 23rd, 2009 12:45 PM
StarBound What does everyone think about someone who is a Casting Director and an Actor? Is that a conflict of interest if they are constantly cast in the films that they are casting? That happens in NC as well!
March 23rd, 2009 01:01 PM
GreyGhost Guys you all need to realize that the PRODUCERS cast the films. Not the CD (Although they may have a certain amount of influence in some cases) and certainly not the Agents. Now I have seen COUNTLESS times when producers cast themselves and their friends, second cousins on the milkman's side, an family pets in big dollar films. Is that okay? Depends on who you ask. It is after all their money.

You can sit around and whine about all the obstacles keeping you from being a star but in the end all you are doing is whining instead of getting out there and making it happen.



Ghost
March 23rd, 2009 01:48 PM
AloneIWalkNC
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GreyGhost wrote:
Okay I gotta say this........................What's the difference if you are competing with your agent? You are ALWAYS going to be competing with more seasoned actors at any audition. CDs will not give your agent any special attention just because he or she is a talent agent. What you SHOULD worry about is if your agent submits him or herself for an audition and DOES NOT submit you as well.

I have had agents in the past who submitted themselves for some of the same projects that I was submitted for. That never bothered me. I just look at it as one more actor auditioning for the role. No biggie.

I know that it bothers some folks which is why I have my own agent to submit me for auditions. BUT what's the bleeding difference? If I were to submit myself or have MY agent do it..............I am still auditioning for the same role.


Ghost





David,

I read this post and called a close friend of mine who has been an agent for over 20 years. She said and I quote, "No respectable agent would partake of such behavior, if they are it's time to find a new agent. Someone who has your interest at heart, not theirs..." I agree with her, but hey it's up to a persons personal choice. But, I personally would never list with anyone who was known to partake in such behavior.

Just my thoughts on the subject. Not that it matters, you'll just come on the board and slam me as you do anyone who doesn't agree with you.....

March 23rd, 2009 02:18 PM
ChrisKanakis if it's non-exclusive what difference does it make?
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