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LeakyBoot
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 Posted August 1st, 2011 09:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I don't have any lost but need to make up some fishing tools for 1 inch Sch 80 pvc. Any ideas? LB
   
n47ie5
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 Posted August 21st, 2011 02:10 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I'd have to think about that for a while. I've never had to fish any out so I haven't had the need to make one, but I have made some other fishing tools.
   
dilligaf
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 Posted January 29th, 2012 06:32 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
i made my fishing tools with a tap the size of the ID of the pvc, weld a threaded collar on the end to make up to a 1' npt, then use a pvc , or aluminum pipe to go down, stab the tap in the pipe & thread it in till it bites & pick the string of lost pipe, i hope this helped
Steve
   
Speedbump
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 Posted January 31st, 2012 12:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
My favorite and most used tool was a set of 1" jars and a 1/8" by 1-1/4" taper tap. You can stab it in or screw it in. Then the jars allow you to beat the poop out of whatever you got a hold of.
   
n47ie5
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 Posted January 31st, 2012 11:04 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
There was one time I had to fish out a pump and line, the owner did not get the t-bar screwed onto the pittless adapter and got it out of the pittless and dropped it. Fell 30 ft down and what I done was used 3 10 ft sections of 3/8" steel pipe threaded together with a bushing on the end. I run my bore hole camera down the hole so I could see the top of the pittless then run the 3/8" pipe down and screwed it onto the pittless and pulled it out.
   
dilligaf
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 Posted January 31st, 2012 11:42 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
any body ever use a overshot type tool as in the oilfield?? i heard of people useing them i never did?
Steve
   
Speedbump
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 Posted February 1st, 2012 11:40 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
My dad liked them. He would take a piece of pipe just a bit bigger than the item to be fished. He would slit the end in four places, pull those four pieces out a little (kind of like a funnel) then take a ball peen hammer and beat dents into the pipe in a lot of places. Using jars he would beat the overshot down over the fish and then pull it out. Worked pretty good.
   
n47ie5
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 Posted February 1st, 2012 07:37 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It's also known as a friction socket, i've used them before they are very simple to make, but they will not hold if what you're fishing is stuck in the hole...
   
dilligaf
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 Posted February 1st, 2012 10:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
i may be on the wrong subject forum, i'v bein lookin on the computer for 2.5 inch jet /packer valves/foot valve, what ever the correct term would be in other places,there are still many 2.5" casings in this area & i have no more jet valves, if i can get leather cups i can make a 2" work with some washers & a little machine work, i have 2 customers who have 3" casing with a 3stage starite pump, but they will just have to go submersible i'm not going to get no 3" valves. anyone have a source for 2.5 jet kits??
Steve
   
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 Posted February 1st, 2012 10:55 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
came across your site in florida speed bump, nice site
Steve
   
n47ie5
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 Posted February 1st, 2012 11:39 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Speedbump might be able to help with that, i'm sure he'll see this and reply.
   
CLEE
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 Posted February 2nd, 2012 11:05 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Once I had a customer who hit his 6" well with a tractor/mower and broke the drop pipe. The well was 200' and the 1" galvanized drop pipe was 100'. So the top of the 1" pipe was 100' down in a 6" well. I used an 1-1/4" tapered tap that had 1-1/4" mpt amd 1" fpt connections. I built a PVC pipe guide that stepped down from 4" to 2". On the end of the 2" I put a 1-1/4" threaded bushing and threaded the guide on the tapered tap. The tap threaded into the bushing the wrong way, but it was only to hold the PVC guide on the tap so I forced it. I then screwed the whole thing on a string of 1" pipe, lowered it into the well, and let the PVC guide lead the broken drop pipe right into the tap. Pulled it out on the first trip.
   
Speedbump
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 Posted February 6th, 2012 11:07 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
"came across your site in florida speed bump, nice site" Thanks, it's been a long time in the making.

I did have 2.5" leathers, but they are all gone now. I can get them if you need them. All the 2.5" jets and casing adaptors are long gone too. Unless you can find one on a dusty shelf somewhere, I don't think anyone makes them anymore. 3" stuff is getting harder to find too. Although I do have 3" leathers.

Clee, sounds like you had the right idea for that fishing job.
   
Texas Wellman
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 Posted February 6th, 2012 11:20 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
You can use a regular 2" jet with oversize leathers. I just did one a few weeks ago.

There are no more 2.5" casing adapters to my knowledge. You will either need to adapt to 3" or down to 2". I chose to go up to 3" so the jet etc. will come right out without having to do a bunch of shuffling.
   
dilligaf
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 Posted February 6th, 2012 01:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
i did the oversize leather thing, they dont sceme to last,i'm going to get some leathers (2.5) by the dozen pack & make some beled washers, if that dont work OH WELL!! the other well guys around dont even pull them up nomore,
Steve
   
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Clay

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 Posted February 6th, 2012 08:32 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Use the regular leathers under the 2.5" leathers. It works better.

The regular leathers fit just inside the 2.5" leathers and make them beefier.
   
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 Posted February 6th, 2012 08:33 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
By the way...Bob (speedbump) has a great board on stuff like this.

look it up...pumpsandtanks.com
   
dilligaf
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 Posted February 6th, 2012 09:14 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
i'm guuna play with that cup idea, so simple i couldn't think of it LOL, thanks for the idea's
Steve
   
Speedbump
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 Posted February 7th, 2012 08:54 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Stephen, let me know how they work. I am having Merill drop ship them to you. There is only one inner size... 1-5/8", so I guess thats the only one made. Hopefully you can fix your customers up in the way that they are accustomed to.
   
dilligaf
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 Posted February 8th, 2012 08:36 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
i'll add back on this when i get the cups & put them in, i dont see why they wont work, the original's on the correct jet & packer is 1-5/8 and i played with a 2" jet & packer & the old cups & that idea looks fine, i'm glad i even found leather cups at all & the price is WAYYY cheaper then my supplier wanted for a pack of 12,, WAYYYYYY cheaper HAHA
Steve
   
Speedbump
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 Posted February 9th, 2012 09:20 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
" WAYYYYYY cheaper HAHA"

We aim to please!
   
dilligaf
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 Posted February 17th, 2012 11:41 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
well i got the leather cups in the other day, that trick worked just fine, a cheap,simple fix to a ongoing problem, thanks for all the help
Steve
   
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Clay

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 Posted February 18th, 2012 08:57 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
What was the trick?
   
dilligaf
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 Posted February 18th, 2012 09:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
to put the 2.5" cups over the 2" on a regular 2" jet
Steve
   
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Clay

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 Posted February 19th, 2012 02:00 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Glad it helped you.
   
cruiser
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 Posted March 9th, 2012 06:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
on the fishing pump pipe out. I have always just ran a flapper valve 5" bailer down and the flapper catches the next coupling down. if it doesnt grab it the first time I will cut half the flapper out that gives it a better pinch point
   
scottarmstrong
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 Posted July 16th, 2012 09:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Once had a bulldozer back into a well with a pump hanging on galvanized pipe for a temporary water service while they were building a new home . My first employer in the well industry came up with fishing tool with 2' of 1" galvanized pipe with a hinge made of 2 steel plates with a bell housing on the end of it. The idea was to be able to visually or squint eye the pipe, slide over it , pull up and pull up and pinch the galv pipe until you could get hold of it and lock it. Worked like a charm . We used it on a 6" drilled well
   
Speedbump
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 Posted July 17th, 2012 09:48 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It's a good thing Well Drillers have ingenuity cause there are a lot of tools out there that weren't manufactured by anyone except the guy using it.
   
n47ie5
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 Posted July 18th, 2012 12:20 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I have a fishing tool I made similar to what you describe, but it is much heavier uses a hardened sharp steel catch and screws onto the drill stem etc. It's made for catching the top of a rope socket, or threaded pin. The rings instead of being on a hinge are two halves and slide up and down a taper bore.
   
dilligaf
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 Posted May 24th, 2014 10:53 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hello again i hadnt bein on sence 2012, i used up my 2.5 inch leather cups i had ordered from someone,, whom i got the adress from on here,,of coarse i lost the adress, anyone still have any info where i can get 2.5 " leather cups?, if i didnt get on this site i would still be lookin for 2.5" jets but i'v bein putting the cups over the 2" jet with much success,, i do about 2or3 /2.5" wells a year. i'm actually a electrician who does well work because of a lack of well repairmen in my area of Louisiana, but what the hell the deepest wells here are 120ft. piece of cake.
Steve
   



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