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 Posted October 1st, 2009 10:49 PM   IP
RacerDave21
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YES SIR,That's what slot car racin is all about!
WINGS HOLD'EM DOWN BUT NOTHING HOLDS'EM BACK!!

 Posted October 1st, 2009 10:57 PM   IP
jimht
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I know this is contrary, but here goes:
The equipment does not determine the capabilities of the user, that's why there are Amateurs and Experts.
I also believe this is why it's useless to have a beginner car class...there are no beginner cars, only beginners,
If the class being raced is Flexi-F7, then even though the equipment rules are very limited, there can still be a tremendous difference between someone who has been racing the class for a year and someone who has been racing a month.

It's always been legitimate and fair to have driver classes within at least one car class: in Opens.
It's just as legitimate and fair to have driver classes in any car class.
Driver classes solve the problem of giving the new racer a place to learn and participate without getting hammered,
If the answer is that there really aren't enough participants to justify such divisions, then my response is maybe throwing beginners in with the experienced has something to do with the lack of entries.
It's difficult enough to get folks involved as it is, why put up unnecessary roadblocks?

I keep seeing references to having had to move up through the ranks and win the big one as a reason to toss everyone in together.
That is caused by using a system of qualifying, timed laps, that really has nothing to do with how qualified anyone is to race.
The USRA recognized this years ago and that is the reason why the elimination races system is used by the USRA, it sorts out the best, regardless of how they qualified.

I feel a driver should be given the opportunity to enter at the skill level he feels comfortable with.
If he wishes to move up to the next level after his first race because he's on a roll, good!: more entries, more racing.
For many years the Series here in Texas was strictly Opens and we ran 3 driver classes. It was not unusual to see someone enter Amateur, do well, then enter Semi-Pro immediately. Likewise for Semi-Pro to Pro. It didn't change their driver classification, just let them race some more.
This was with Opens!! To do the same thing with some of the really limited cars in the TSRA would be easy in comparison and much less expensive money and timewise.
The result:
More entries in each class.
More racing for those who moved up.
More fun!
I'm not expecting the TSRA to suddenly adopt driver classes, just yakking here...but please don't consider the idea of driver classes as a way to "put the newbies in their place" but rather as a way to maybe make the TSRA a friendlier place for them to play.




(Edited by jimht)

Jim Honeycutt
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 Posted October 1st, 2009 11:24 PM   IP
brane
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greedy wrote:
SO the way I see IT ! why doesn't the TSRA , have a class for " BEGINNERS " an experience racers, that way the NEWBIE's or beginners can learn how things are done an what you have to do to prepare yourself and your equipment for the race , IT takes time to become a good racer ! so why!,don't we have a place to start ! Thin you'll have a place for the beginners to become experienced racers , an in turn this well help to get new people in slot cars .


Your local raceways weekly program is the place for that.

I can be the jump start for the car parked in your mind
Cos' you left the lights on all night long


Ya, horses you muck mouthed, baboon jawed, green shanked idiot! I'll make you some fudge!
And all the kiddies rolled their loathesome, filmy, bloated little eyeballs.


Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

 Posted October 1st, 2009 11:30 PM   IP
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Kilgore wrote:


So rather than giving the "novices, or beginners" some kind of simple advice that they might take to heart and put to use, whether it's just a quick comment that won't take too much time away from your precious "preparing of your equipment" on how to drive a certain turn, or actually showing them how to set their car up which CAN be time consuming, you'd rather single them out and publicly broadcast how YOU don't want to be bothered with racing against a field partially populated with "beginners" because you personally don't think their "experienced yet". Is this your idea of "the way to go about it"

-Chris


I think it's obvious that I never suggested anything like the nonsense you are spewing. Did you forget to take your meds today?

I can be the jump start for the car parked in your mind
Cos' you left the lights on all night long


Ya, horses you muck mouthed, baboon jawed, green shanked idiot! I'll make you some fudge!
And all the kiddies rolled their loathesome, filmy, bloated little eyeballs.


Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!...
Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

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