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 Posted May 28th, 2007 05:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
friscolobo,

Many of the uncut versions of Roy's films found on VHS and DVD came from private collections, e.g. color versions of both Bells of San Angelo and Under California Stars. I understand that some of these prints were actually stolen from theaters. Some uncut prints in private collections were also purchased from libraries. It would be great if an uncut print of Sunset in El Dorado would surface from a private collection. It would be great to get it on DVD.

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 Posted May 28th, 2007 09:10 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I think "Call of the Prarie" is one of the prettiest RR songs I've heard. That was actually the song that inspired me to save up for the It Was Always the Music set.
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 Posted May 28th, 2007 10:13 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
CowboyFan,

I also like "Call of the Prairie".

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 Posted May 28th, 2007 10:28 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Jwhitney,

I wish someone would obtain an uncut version of Man From Oklahoma. They cut out the "Martins and McCoys" song that is great. Roy and Sons sing it in the barn before Dale enters.
   
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 Posted May 28th, 2007 10:42 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
friscolobo,

Both Sunset in El Dorado and Man from Oklahoma are at the top my want list for uncut RR films.

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 Posted May 30th, 2007 07:20 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Man from Oklahoma is really a great movie. Dale had a really good role in that one!
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 Posted May 31st, 2007 11:11 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I guess the Happy Trails Theatre version of Sunset in Eldorado is cut?
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 Posted May 31st, 2007 03:24 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Right. The uncut version isn't available, so RRFan and I bought that one. It's really a good movie, even though it is cut.
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 Posted May 31st, 2007 06:01 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
That was the 4th RR movie I ever watched. My parents got it in a special HTT gift pack from Giant Tiger as a surprise in Feb. 2006.
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 Posted June 4th, 2007 03:10 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Isn't the wraparound great for that movie?
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 Posted June 4th, 2007 04:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yes my brother bought this movie for me recently on a trip he made. I like where they show the video of Roy with all the Palaminos!
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 Posted June 6th, 2007 12:33 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
We just watched Sunset in Eldorado again the other night, and I'd almost forgotten
how much I like that one!!!! It's a really good movie, and all the actors are at their
top best. Roy's acting is partciularly good, as is Dale's. And the way Gabby and that
aunt of Dale's act together, it's great!!!!! I also like Roy Barcroft being nice for a little
bit there too. I know they were bad-guy motives, but I liked it all the same. I like Roy
Barcroft better being a good-guy than a bad one. Am I the only one with that idea
around here? I'd kinda like to see his TV show!!!!!!!!! Okay, maybe not that far, but I
do like it when he pays a bit part as a good-guy. He doesn't really make the best of
bad-guys.

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 Posted June 6th, 2007 02:54 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
RRFan,

Roy Barcroft did play a good guy in Cherokee Flash a Sunset Carson movie. In this one he played Sunset Carson's father, who had been an outlaw, but served his time and went straight. He is then framed by his old gang and Sunset has to get him out of trouble.

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 Posted June 7th, 2007 10:08 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Barcroft was also in several of the old Perry Mason TV shows usually playing a good guy, sometimes not. Steve
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 Posted June 13th, 2007 02:10 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hmm, not bad...
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 Posted June 14th, 2007 07:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
You know, I was looking at the credits for Sunset in El Dorado the other day, and thinking how ironic they are. Here is this movie, written for Dale, and she gets more than two-thirds of the screen time and the whole plot centers around her problem, and she only gets third billing again. I think she should've gotten star billing along with Roy. I think that always, of course, but especially in Sunset in El Dorado.
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 Posted June 15th, 2007 11:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
RRS,

I completely agree with you. I never understood what rationale was used to determine the order of the billing. Dale got short changed on a number of the RR films.

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 Posted June 16th, 2007 07:21 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I have a question. In SiEL, Why did DE's character decide to do her number on the floor, when RR and Buster or who ever he was were going thru Cyril's desk? Wouldn't of it been better if she had of stayed on the stage?
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 Posted June 19th, 2007 11:42 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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RRS,

I completely agree with you. I never understood what rationale was used to determine the order of the billing. Dale got short changed on a number of the RR films.


I'll say! But Sunset in El Dorado was especially unfair. It was HER story, after all! Roy was a secondary character, albeit an awfully good one! The plot functioned around Dale.

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CowboyFan wrote:
I have a question. In SiEL, Why did DE's character decide to do her number on the floor, when RR and Buster or who ever he was were going thru Cyril's desk? Wouldn't of it been better if she had of stayed on the stage?



Well, I don't know for sure, but my guess is that she was trying to get so much attention that no one would notice what was going on in Cyril's office. She also had a better view of the door from the floor.

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 Posted June 19th, 2007 06:17 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
True, but because she was on the floor, the BG went in search of her body guard...
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 Posted June 22nd, 2007 02:55 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
That's absolutely correct. But I think my idea's right, and her scheme just backfired on her. You have to admit, it wouldn't exactly be the first time....
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 Posted June 28th, 2007 11:21 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hey, I just realized--this was the ONLY RR ever where Dale played a historical-type character!
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 Posted June 28th, 2007 11:22 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I never realized that! Wow!
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 Posted June 28th, 2007 11:23 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
She certainly had a good role!
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 Posted June 29th, 2007 03:37 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yah, not like some of the other female historical charactors! !
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Knighting out of Kingdom of Heaven

You will listen to me. Listen! The Bretheren will still be looking to us, the Black Pearl, to lead. And what will they see? Frightened bilge rats aboard a derelict ship? No! No, they will see free men and freedom! And what the enemy will see is the flash of our cannons! They will hear the ring of our swords and they will know what we can do. By the sweat of our brows, and the strength of our backs, and the courage of our hearts. Gentlemen, hoist the colors.
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 Posted June 29th, 2007 04:57 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
"Sunset In El Dorado" was good/DE was great in this movie!
   
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 Posted June 30th, 2007 07:46 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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jwhitney36 wrote:
friscolobo,

Many of the uncut versions of Roy's films found on VHS and DVD came from private collections, e.g. color versions of both Bells of San Angelo and Under California Stars. I understand that some of these prints were actually stolen from theaters. Some uncut prints in private collections were also purchased from libraries. It would be great if an uncut print of Sunset in El Dorado would surface from a private collection. It would be great to get it on DVD.

Jim, I think it would be good for all of us to know about your expertise on "un-cut" RR movies and some of the other items of interest and how you came to have such knowledge. I, for one, would be interested. Would you share that with us?

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 Posted June 30th, 2007 10:40 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I would enjoy hearing this also, Jim!
   
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 Posted July 2nd, 2007 11:45 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Does anyone know how long SiED was before it was cut? (In other words, how much we're missing )
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