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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 03:50 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
CowboyFan, you were durn tootin' right about Sunset in El Dorado being a good movie!! I just watched it and I like it a TON! It's one of my favorites, that's for sure. I love Dale's role in it. She's just the right mix of spunky, smart, saucy, and nice. Roy is also great in the movie--for being put it at the last minute, he certainly made himself indispensable! He and Dale have a couple of great scenes in there--the one where Roy gets hired as bodyguard, and then the one where they go riding together. I just like the whole flavor of the movie--the only thing I didn't like was the fact that Gabby drank too much and Dale's style of dressing. If she'd taken some of that stuff that swished around her ankles and put it around her shoulders that would've been an improvement.

Everything else about the movie I really liked, though! The whole "Lady Who Wouldn't Say Yes" scene is great! I love the way Dale's face lights up when Roy drops down beside her. I also like it how they make Dale and Gabby work together in that movie! I always think they work great, but they were particularly good in that one.

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By the way, is Sunset in El Dorado the other Dale-Roy movie besides Man From Oklahoma that's not available uncut? I hope not--I'd love to see that movie uncut. There were quite a few scenes that were trimmed, it was pretty obvious. However, there are no big holes--which is good!
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Oops! I just remembered something else! I found a bleep in the movie! In Dale's role as Kansas Kate's granddaughter, her name is Lucille Wiley. But Kate's name is also Wiley! I think the scriptwriters were having a long, late night again. There would be no way for Kate's name to have passed down to her granddaughter! They should have just made Dale have a different name, instead of trying to bring in a tie like that.
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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 04:01 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Roughriding Senorita,

Unfortunately you are correct, Sunset in El Dorado is the other movie with Roy and Dale that is not available uncut. Republic desperately tried to find an uncut version when they put together the VHS box set honoring Roy shortly after his death. I have a feeling that an uncut copy could well be found in someone's private collection. Nina, this is also one of my favorite RR movies and it is very frustrating that no uncut version is available. We can always hope.

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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 04:44 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Okay, I'm crossing my fingers and my toes! There must be an uncut copy somewhere!!

Isn't it a great movie, though? I love all the characters. I can't believe it's not one of the more popular ones!

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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 05:18 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I think it's a great movie, too. Who played the bad guy who turned good but was then shot by the head bad guy? I just saw the movie but forgot.
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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 05:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Roy Barcroft! He was great in the role, too. Like I've said before, he really wasn't too much the bad guy type. You could see him in a good guy role without too much trouble.
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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 05:21 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
ok barcroft is great in winners of the west to a universal serial
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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 05:22 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Good guy in there?
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 Posted April 23rd, 2007 05:26 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Okay thanks! I was thinking it was either him or William Haade. I think Barcroft's role in SiED was one of the first not to bad guyish roles I've seen him play in a RR western.
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 Posted April 26th, 2007 03:39 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Isn't the scene in the beginning of Sunset in El Dorado funny, where Roy finds Dale wandering through the desert and comes over to help--which her fiancee sees and yells, "Hey, she's running away again!"

Roy raises his eyebrows and goes, "Hmm. I think I might want to hear more about this."

"Don't worry," Dale groans. "You will!"

Then the after scene is SO funny, where Dale and her aunt and her fiancee all start arguing loudly, and Roy just leans against Trigger, crosses his ankles, and listens. I love it when he does that!

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 Posted April 28th, 2007 02:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I love it when he does it too!

Believe it or not, I think that I like Roy Barcroft being a good-buy. he does a pretty
darn good job of it. Which by the way, am I the only one that noticed his good-buy
role in Sunset Serenade? It's only a split second, but that's enough.

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 Posted April 28th, 2007 05:50 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Who did he play in S.S, RRfan?
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 Posted April 28th, 2007 08:28 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
"Sunset In El Dorado" has always been a great favorite of most fans.....now, if only an uncut version could be found; perhaps someday, someone will come up with the uncut version they have in a private collection as jwhitney posted earlier.
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 Posted April 28th, 2007 08:30 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
That would be neat! I wonder how much was cut out of the cut verison? I think DE had a strong role in this movie, by the way.
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 Posted April 28th, 2007 08:56 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It seems like several "good" minutes are always cut in the cut versions. I have no idea how many minutes may have hit the cutting room floor.
   
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 Posted May 1st, 2007 05:20 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Isn't Gabby's role in Sunset in El Dorado great? You hear about his role in so many movies, but no one ever seems to mention this one. How come? Is it so rare or something? I don't see why you never hear about it or anything. It's really a good movie! I'd say it's easily as good as about half of the other movies Roy and Dale made. It was even cut pretty well!!!
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 Posted May 1st, 2007 05:25 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yeah, his role was good in this one. I feel rather sad for him, after all, he was gypped out of his gold mine.
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 Posted May 1st, 2007 05:35 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Me too. But, after all, good old Roy and Dale were there to help!
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 Posted May 1st, 2007 06:03 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Sunset in El Dorado is a real classic. Yes, Nina, you are correct in saying that this was an excellent Gabby Hayes film, and you are also correct in saying that it does not get much publicity. I also think this is a great film for Dale. The story line is really different from any of Roy's other movies and is very clever. I am still curious as to what parts have been cut out. Maybe one of these days will be able to view an uncut version.
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 Posted May 5th, 2007 12:07 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I agree about the unusual story line. In fact, I think that it was one of the most artistically done Roy Rogers movies. The music, for instance, was excellent, as was the photography. And I've looked carefully and have not seen one bleeper!
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 Posted May 5th, 2007 12:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I think my favourate song from SiED is Belle of the El Dorado. It's a really neat song!
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It's a GREAT song! The looks on Roy's and Dale's faces are great. Actually, I like all the songs in that movie!
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 Posted May 5th, 2007 03:53 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I was surprised to learn that they didn't cut out any of the songs from that movie.
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Gabby was excellent in this movie...I always enjoy Gabby!
   
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One of my favorite scenes in Sunset in El Dorado--in fact, I believe it may be my favorite scene--is the one where Roy and Dale go riding. I love the dialogue that goes on there, Roy's super-cool, completely unruffleable demeanor, and Dale's pepperpot flying from one extreme to the next. They both are such fantastically good actors!
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 Posted May 27th, 2007 08:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Roy and Dale meet in an early scene from Sunset in El Dorado


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 Posted May 27th, 2007 08:16 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Roy and Dale singing Belle of the El Dorado


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 Posted May 27th, 2007 09:16 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Nice pics! I found out the other day that SiED was released on my birthday a couple decades before I was born.
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 Posted May 28th, 2007 04:57 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I had a fan magazine from the 40's that featured Sunset in El Dorado. It had the complete story and from what I remember when Dale had strayed from the car (before she went back in time) she heard Roy singing "Call of the Prairie" while riding Trigger. In the cut version this is noticeably cut out, and the scene changes fast and Roy says to Dale "Well Hello There" and you can hear the music from "Call of the Prairie" playing in the background.

Someone must have the uncut version in their home library in either 16mm or 35mm. Remember they released many prints of all movies to play in theaters across the country. I have heard that in many instances some of the prints did not make their way back to the original distributors. I used to have a large collection of 16mm sound movies of Roy and Gene and many of them were uncut.
   



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