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Maggie Member  Posts: 199 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted April 12th, 2008 05:00 AM IP  Aww Jess, I can totally relate to how your feeling, I'm sure we all can... you just want whats best for your wee one, it is confusing and frustrating, because you have two options and both are scary.. if you taper its a worry and if you stay at a stable dose, you have the worry and stress of the baby going through wd's when he/she is born, which is a heart wrenching exp..
Like yourself, I was so determined to taper down as much as I could with my first, and I did, I went from 80 mls to 40, I think, it was so long ago, but it didn't do my baby any good, so this time Im just staying at a stable dose and trying to stay stress free. Like yourself I was on birth control, but somehow still fell pregnant and I've had a hard time dealing with the guilt, because after what Annaya went through, I promised myself i would never put another baby through that, but here I am again.
I reduced 1 ml per week with Annaya, isn't 5 a bit much? although Im on linctus, Im not sure how it works, you know, mlg into mls or vise versa.
Its great that your feeling good physically, i was the opposite, I felt so yucky and withdrawn, and i would hope that if your feeling good, so is your baby..
If your minds made up that your going to continue to taper for the sake of your baby when its born, please, try not to stress over it, because that defeats the purpose of tapering.. I truly believe a content mother to be, will go onto have a content baby.. I know its easier said than done, believe me, Im an obsessive worrier.. but, I've banned myself from stressing over what will be... I have started to meditate at night, and what I do is visualize my baby being born without wd. Ive been researching it and visualization through meditation seems to be very powerful, and it really lowers my anxiety and stress levels, it is truly amazing how it works.
If it feels right to you, and your feeling good, then I wish you all the best.. is your goal to taper right off if possible? or just get it as low as you can?
And back on topic lol my due date is the 29th of oct, gosh, it seems so far away lol
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FinallyFree Member Posts: 63 Registered: Apr 2008 |
Posted April 23rd, 2008 12:49 PM IP  I am due October 14th, 08 and I am having a lil bay-b girl...awwwwww I am so excited!!!
wooooooo!
(Edited by FinallyFree) Life is beautiful-Don't think about the past or the future, live for today!
- Brittany from Maine-
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cindy Member  Posts: 52 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted April 23rd, 2008 01:06 PM IP  i am due august 11, 08- and it's a girl! we're naming her Laila
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mommyam0508 Member  Posts: 1 Registered: Apr 2008 |
Posted April 25th, 2008 01:02 PM IP 

Hello all, I'm new here, name is Amanda, I'm a mother of soon to be two sons. I'm due May 25, 2008, with my second son. Both of my boys were born with me on Methadone. Hugs, Amanda
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Sweet_Serenity Member  Posts: 118 Registered: Oct 2007 |
Posted April 27th, 2008 12:22 PM IP  welcome! amanda im so glad you found us and congrats on you new one.!!
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susie3827 *MODERATOR*  Posts: 1209 Registered: Sep 2006 |
Posted April 27th, 2008 12:38 PM IP  Welcome to the family Amanda.
When you feel comfortable and want to, if you could share some of your experiences with the other gals I think they would appreciate it from someone else who has gone through the process too.....once already and for the second time again in a very short time....lol...
Congrats and welcome!!!!
Susie. ______________________________________
Susanne Moore B.A., B. ScN., R.N.
Pregnancy Support Specialist
Bachelor of Biomedical Ethics
Bachelor of Nursing Science
Registered Nurse
Member of Sigma Theta Tau Honour Society of Nursing
Methadone Pregnancy Info and Support Page
Susie@MethadoneSupport.org
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bridnwsm Member Posts: 8 Registered: Apr 2008 |
Posted April 27th, 2008 08:44 PM IP  I just found out a week ago that I will be due on December 1, 2008. We are hoping for a girl but we will be happy with either. The Dr.'s did some blood work on me my first visit and found that my progestrone is/was low. It was 10.5 and was supposed to be in the 20 range, so they called me in some Prometrium to
help increase my levels. I go back tomorrow to check again to see if the meds are making my levels rise. I will keep everyone posted. Keep US in your prayers...I am scared!!!
Get your free online pregnancy calendar from WhatToExpect.com
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susie3827 *MODERATOR*  Posts: 1209 Registered: Sep 2006 |
Posted April 28th, 2008 08:18 AM IP  Congrats....and please, yes, keep us posted as to how you are doing.
By the way...I think we all can relate to you're being scared...lol..
Just remember...your family is behind you...all the way...We are here for lots of love and support.
Love to you,
Susie. ______________________________________
Susanne Moore B.A., B. ScN., R.N.
Pregnancy Support Specialist
Bachelor of Biomedical Ethics
Bachelor of Nursing Science
Registered Nurse
Member of Sigma Theta Tau Honour Society of Nursing
Methadone Pregnancy Info and Support Page
Susie@MethadoneSupport.org
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stacymuise Member Posts: 99 Registered: Feb 2007 |
Posted May 3rd, 2008 03:47 PM IP  I am Stacy and due late December...and nervous..... stacy
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susie3827 *MODERATOR*  Posts: 1209 Registered: Sep 2006 |
Posted May 3rd, 2008 05:56 PM IP  Hey there Stacy: Congrats and for the record....I think we all were nervous before giving birth.
When you feel comfortable, why don't you tell us a little about yourself and what brings you here.
We are a very supportive and caring and trusting family. You've found the best.
Take your time, and read all you can..you will get alot of info by reading all the old posts...(plus the archives).
Welcome.
Susie. ______________________________________
Susanne Moore B.A., B. ScN., R.N.
Pregnancy Support Specialist
Bachelor of Biomedical Ethics
Bachelor of Nursing Science
Registered Nurse
Member of Sigma Theta Tau Honour Society of Nursing
Methadone Pregnancy Info and Support Page
Susie@MethadoneSupport.org
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Sweet_Serenity Member  Posts: 118 Registered: Oct 2007 |
Posted May 3rd, 2008 06:18 PM IP  Hello gals, welcome and i look forard to getting to know you both, im not sure exatly what that intails with the low blood levels, but i will sure be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers, , i think its pritty much imposible not to be nervous a little , and if you havent yet i would suggest reading all the posts here, even the ones in the archieves, if you have questions you will prolly find the answer there, and even stuff you have never befroe thought of, even after going through it once already ( preg and MMT) i learned so much after coming here so i was very prepeared when the 2nd one came and the experience was nothing like the first. so make sure you cover all your bases find an good, understanding doc, and ask questions here, and at the doc, i gotta fo for now, but congrats and I look for ward to takin with you all!-crystal
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Sweet_Serenity Member  Posts: 118 Registered: Oct 2007 |
Posted May 3rd, 2008 06:20 PM IP  oh by the way susie ---your trying......? I think thats great, aaaaaawwwwwwwe I just shead a tear....love ya
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rachels Member Posts: 53 Registered: May 2008 |
Posted July 3rd, 2008 04:24 PM IP  I am due Jan 31st 2009. I am finally getting excited and can't wait to meet my new baby.
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hazel23 Member Posts: 3 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted July 4th, 2008 10:29 PM IP  my due date is november 10th. this is my 4th child and my 2nd on methadone. is there anyone from maine here write me if you have time.hazel2004@verizon/net
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pregoshay Member Posts: 5 Registered: Jul 2008 |
Posted July 13th, 2008 12:08 AM IP  I am new to the site and I am 35 weeks along with my 2nd child and switching over from oxycontin to methadone. I actually start the clinic on Monday to be exact. With my daughter, who is 2, I wasn't on anything so this is my first pregnancy with these circumstances. I have been addicted to oxy's for the entire pregnancy and have attempted to detox myself using methadone on my own about 4 times throughtout. I have done it in the past prior to being pregnant without experiencing any physical withdrawal by taking the methadone in small doses for 4-5 days instead of oxy and then nothing at all, but all 4 times I have tried throughout this pregnancy I haven't had success. I didn't want to take methadone for too long in fear of becoming addicted to that (hearing withdrawals are much worse from methadone than from oxy's)so I wouldn't take it longer than 6 days and I would feel crappy the day after I would stop taking it and would start with the oxy's again. So anyways, because I am obviously so close to delivering and knowing that D.S.S. will get involved if I deliver a baby with drugs in his system I finally realized I needed help (noone I am close to knows about my addiction except my fiance) and I talked to my doctor. He convinced me to start the clinic ( I do monday) and stay at as low a dose as I can bear without feeling sick. He assured me being in a "program" will protect me form having my son taken away and at most I maybe will be "monitored" by social services for a short period of time if they feel it necessary. That is one of the major reasons I had tried to detox on my own is because I didn't want my son to be born with drugs in his system or to be labeled at all as a drug addict. So now that you all know my story I have a few questions I was hoping someone coud help to answer. Seeing as I only have 5 weeks at the most left in my pregnancy that I will be on Methadone for, and I am planning on taking no more than 30 mg daily, what is the likelihood of my son showing any signs of N.A.S.? And do you know anything about NH's (where I live) department of social services and how they deal with babies on methadone? Also, my doctor and I discussed looking at other options after I deliver to get me off of the methadone and clean all together. Will it be easier for me to come off of it also because of the low dose and amoutn of time? I am sooo happy I found this site because I really feel alone with all this. My family has no idea that I'm an addict and all of my friends that knew I was on oxy's before think I quit a few months into my pregnancy. Let's just say I'm good at keeping things hidden. So thank you in advance for all the support I know I will get from you all, it definetely seems to be a positive pattern on this forum. Oh and my due date to be exact is August 16th! No name picked out yet though I'll let you know when we decide.
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Jessica1381 *SUPER MODERATOR* Posts: 1215 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted July 15th, 2008 08:16 AM IP  Welcome Pregoshay!!! I want to start off at first by saying congratualtions on making a good choice by getting on a clinic!!!! That was really smart of you. I am not too sure of the NH laws, but in Mass when I was prego with my 1st born daughter a couple years ago I had relapsed at the very end of my pregnancy and I went on methadone. Once she was born DSS came and spoke to me while she was in the hospitol (she did go thru NAS and I was on 40) and then they made a home visit to make sure she had everything she needed then they closed the case all together. So, I would imagine as scary as it is, that it would probably be pretty similar for you. You did the right thing by getting help and DSS wants to see the baby stay with the mom. They just wanna make sure that you are focused on doing the right things. So, try not to stress to much. As far as weather or not your baby will experience NAS or not... Well, I wish I knew. THe thing of it is every baby is different. Some babies have been born to moms who were on 80 and had no NAS at all and went right home... others, like my daughter Angelina did have NAS and I was only at 40... This time I tapered in my 2nd trimester from 45 to 16. So I hope that being on a lower dose makes a difference. I dont really know though. I dont think anyone can answer that either way for you. It all is up to your baby. My best friend had her son and she was on 160 and he had no NAS at all and no methadone in his system at all. Sometimes you just get lucky I guess. Either way, know this even if your baby goes through NAS he is going to be just fine. My daughter is proof of that. As are alot of other babies born to moms on methadone. SO try not to worry yourself too much. He will be okay either way. Please stay in touch. I hope I helped you some. Now relax and have a nice day. You are almost there! Lucky you!!! (I am due October 11th or the 3rd...they go back and forth on my due date) Love Jessica  Jessica Jensen,CSAC, CMA
Primary Pregnancy Support Specialist
Certified Substance Abuse Counselor
Certified Methadone Advocate
Certified Hepatitis C Basic Educator
Member of NAADAC, AATOD & MOAR
testing for CADAC1 in June 2010
Jessica@MethadoneSupport.org
1-860-798-5785
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jsoeur Member Posts: 2 Registered: Jul 2008 |
Posted July 15th, 2008 10:53 PM IP  My daughter's due date is mid July - any day now - she is in the hospital now ... The doctor plans on inducing her next month. I am new here, and posted info in New Members
So glad to find this forum
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pregoshay Member Posts: 5 Registered: Jul 2008 |
Posted July 16th, 2008 08:44 AM IP  Jessica,
Thanks so much for your advice. It's really nice to not feel so alone with all this. So, I started the clinic yesterday and they have me on 30mg. I was fine for most of the day but around like 7 or 8pm I started feeling all achy and I didn't really sleep last night either. I already went and got my dose this morning at 6:30 and I feel so much better now but I'm worried I'll feel like crap again later tonight. As of tomorrow they're going to up me 5 mg so hopefully that'll help. So, it's good to hear that things were so uncomplicated with DSS for you. The fact that you live in Mass though makes things alot different for you. For some reason, NH is so much stricter than Mass when it comes to addiction. I know the clinics down there, or at least the one in Lynn that my cousin goes to, are much more lenient than the ones up here. But what you told me was your experience is pretty much what my doctor said mine would be like. He said they might wanna come visit and just talk to me but that it shouldn't go much farther than that. I know that if they do come visit I should have nothing to worry about. My daughter is very well taken care of, that's one thing that, depsite the fact I'm a drug addict, I'm positive I'm good at. my daughter is my world, as will my son be also. That has honestly been the hardest thing about all of this. With my daughters pregnancy I stopped using the day I found out. Keep in mind I wasn't physically addicted at the time, but mentally, there was no question and it wasn't even hard to stop a little. I quit smoking ciggarettes the day I found out, too. Basically, I did evereything right, the way I was supposed to, so I could be sure my baby was healthy and had every chance I could give her to thrive. Today she is the smartest 2 year old I've ever met and I know that I helped her to be that, but with my son, this pregnancy, I feel like I've done nothing right. I haven't even been able to quit butts this time and obviously I wasn't able to stop doing drugs either or I wouldn't be in the situation I'm in at 35 weeks. I just feel so quilty and I can't imagine how I'll feel if my son has any issues. If he doesn't learn and grow as well as my daughter has I'll blame myself every day for the rest of his life. It's just a big never-ending, viscious cycle I feel like, because the fact that I feel so guilty makes me so depressed, and being depressed and stressed out makes it harder to do the things I should be. I dunno.
So Jessica, that's awesome that you were able to get down to such a low dose for this baby. Do you have any names picked out yet? My fiance and I can't make up our mind. I think our son might not have a name until we see his little face Oh well, at least we'll know it'll fit him right? Anyways, I really appreciate your advice, like I said, it's nice to not feel so alone. So do you still live in Mass now? Where abouts if so? Please keep in touch and thank you again.
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Jessica1381 *SUPER MODERATOR* Posts: 1215 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted July 16th, 2008 01:34 PM IP  Hi Pregoshay... Yes I still live in Mass... I live in Westfield (which is western Mass) about 15 minutes outside of Springfield. Listen try not to beat yourself up over not getting yourself clean right away... Listen as I shared with you before I used heroin while pregnant with my daughter and she is fine. I mean I am not advicating that you can do that with no concequences for your baby, but I am saying that my daughter was just fine and she is a very smart 2 year old today. She is a year advanced in speech and everything! The only thing I had to deal with at birth was her having NAS, but she and I lived through it and she is perfect! I do, however totally understand the guilt you feel...the "what if's" and the "I'll never 4give myself if..." I went thru all of that with my daughter... and I am again (due to me smoking knowing there are complications with my placenta probably caused by smoking) So I really know how you feel. Its hard. The hardest thing we will ever do as women is be a mother and the most rewarding & happiest thing we will ever do as women is be a mother.... Thats why we go thru all the emotions we do...cuz we are moms! Again, as far as DSS goes, try not to sweat them too much... Yeah the thought is scarry but they will come and go cuz you are doing the right thing. All they did was talk to me at my house and make sure that Angelina had a safe place to come home to and had everything she needed and that was it...they closed the case. They will do the same with this baby because I am on mmt! So it is what it is, but they WILL NOT take him away from you because you are clean and doing the right things. DO NOT WORRY! Even if they wanna stay involved for a bit...who cares, let them, they will see that you are a good mom and close the case. They wont take him from you though! So relax! Well, I am gonna end this here! I hope to hear from you soon. You can PM me if you want to as well. love Jessica Jessica Jensen,CSAC, CMA
Primary Pregnancy Support Specialist
Certified Substance Abuse Counselor
Certified Methadone Advocate
Certified Hepatitis C Basic Educator
Member of NAADAC, AATOD & MOAR
testing for CADAC1 in June 2010
Jessica@MethadoneSupport.org
1-860-798-5785
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pregoshay Member Posts: 5 Registered: Jul 2008 |
Posted July 22nd, 2008 12:56 PM IP 
Thanks again Jessica! Your advice is really helpful. It just feels soooo much better to not feel so alone with all this anymore. But now that I'm reassured about DSS and the methadone, I'm worried about something else Ugh! So, I had an ultrasound yesterday to check the baby's size because my doc had actually said he was a bit worried the baby might be on the big side. My daughter was almost 8 lbs and she was 3 weeks early (they induced me because of preeclampsia) so I think that was the main reason for his concern. I'm also measuring like 1-2 centimeters above how many weeks along I am so maybe that's why too. But anyways, after having my ultrasound I think the baby might be small. The techy who did my u/s didn't know jack about what she was doing (it was sooo obvious) and couldn't even tell me about how many lbs. the baby weighed according to her measurements, but she did give me the # is grams and trying to do the calculations on my own i came out the my lil' man is still REALLY little, only 3.36 lbs and I'm 36 weeks along, almost 37, I'm due 8-16 just in case you don't remember, and like over a month ago my doc had guessed the baby weighed about 4 lbs. (from feeling and from my measurements) so if he doesn't even weight that much already it can't be good. I know they gain about a 1/2 lb. per week but still that's only 2 more lbs. to go which means he won't even be 6 lbs!!! I'm scared. Does anyone else know more about weight and converting grams to lbs? Or does anyone know if a baby can be healthy still even if small? Anyone who wants to, please feel free to help, I would totally appreciate it. Thanks again.
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Sharon *ADMINISTRATOR*  Posts: 1281 Registered: Mar 2006 |
Posted July 22nd, 2008 03:04 PM IP  Ultrasounds done that late in pregnancy can be off as much as a lb either way. Babies grow about 1/2 lb per wk during the last month of pregnancy if their growth is normal- if the growth is slower than normal they grow less than 1/2 lb per wk and in fact if there is a problem such as growth restriction, placental abnormalities, etc they can stop growing or even lose weight.
1kg=2.2 lbs and 1 ounce=28gm and 1 lb=454gm
The best indication that a small baby will be developmentally normal is whether or not their head size is normal or near normal- this is called head-sparing intrauterine growth restriction (IUGR) or assymetric IUGR.
Wishing you and your baby the very best!
Hugs,
Sharon Sharon Dembinski, RNP, CMA
Registered Nurse Practitioner
Certified Methadone Advocate
Board of Directors- Methadone Support Org
508 864-0311
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Jessica1381 *SUPER MODERATOR* Posts: 1215 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted July 23rd, 2008 09:31 AM IP  Pregoshay, My daughter was born at only 5 lbs 13 ounces and she grew just fine and was completely normal... I would relax I am sure your baby is just fine... Chances are if there was something wrong they would have caught it as they did with me in this pregnancy... I mean my baby may have growth problems and its most likely all my fault. So at leaste you dont have to worry about that. I just wish knowing all I know that I could stop smoking. I feel like crap. Well, we are going on vacation the 1st week of August to cape cod, mass... As I said b4 my bf does not know I am smoking still, so I am gonna try to use that week to just quit. I am at my witts end and I really hate myself right now. I feel like I am on heroin all over again and I cant quit!!! Except it cigs not heroin this time. I dont wanna hurt this baby, I really dont and everytime I smoke I do... yet I still cant stop... Okay now I have totally depressed myself! -Jessica Jessica Jensen,CSAC, CMA
Primary Pregnancy Support Specialist
Certified Substance Abuse Counselor
Certified Methadone Advocate
Certified Hepatitis C Basic Educator
Member of NAADAC, AATOD & MOAR
testing for CADAC1 in June 2010
Jessica@MethadoneSupport.org
1-860-798-5785
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Sharon *ADMINISTRATOR*  Posts: 1281 Registered: Mar 2006 |
Posted July 23rd, 2008 06:59 PM IP  Jess,
I'm sorry you are feeling badly about yourself and your smoking!
How about we make a list of all the positive things you are doing to assure your baby's health? What are the answers to these questions??
1. Eating healthy?
2. Taking prenatal vitamins?
3.Getting regular prenatal care?
4. Using illicit drugs?
5. Getting plenty of rest?
I'm sure you can answer most if not all these questions with positive answers and probably even add to the list, right??
Hugs,
Sharon
Sharon Dembinski, RNP, CMA
Registered Nurse Practitioner
Certified Methadone Advocate
Board of Directors- Methadone Support Org
508 864-0311
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Maggie Member  Posts: 199 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted July 24th, 2008 05:03 AM IP  Great work Sharon I have a habit on focusing on the negative, sometimes you need someone (like yourself) to point out the positive.
Jess, I know you can answer yes to all 5.. see.. not so much of a "crap mother" eh? lol
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Jessica1381 *SUPER MODERATOR* Posts: 1215 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted July 24th, 2008 11:59 AM IP  Sharon, I am doing all the things you mentioned.. no doubt. I eat pretty healthy, I take vitamins, get good regular prenatal care, I DO NOT use any drugs, and I get a decent ammount of rest... as much as I can with a 2 year old...but I do rest and nap.... I am trying real hard to not be so upset... but it is hard for me knowing something is wrong with my placenta... Thank you for reminding me of the possitives though... I needed to remember those. If I thought about it I could probably think of a few more I suppose. Thanks again Sharon and Maggie... Love, Jess Jessica Jensen,CSAC, CMA
Primary Pregnancy Support Specialist
Certified Substance Abuse Counselor
Certified Methadone Advocate
Certified Hepatitis C Basic Educator
Member of NAADAC, AATOD & MOAR
testing for CADAC1 in June 2010
Jessica@MethadoneSupport.org
1-860-798-5785
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babymamainaz Member  Posts: 14 Registered: Aug 2008 |
Posted August 4th, 2008 11:59 PM IP  Im new here, just found the site this morning. I am due Feb1st, 2009....Lori
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Maggie Member  Posts: 199 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted August 5th, 2008 07:32 AM IP  Hiya and welcome Lori!!
So glad you found this site, its been a huge help to me throughout my pregnancy. Is this your first pregnancy Lori?
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NwBB2009 Member  Posts: 15 Registered: Jul 2008 |
Posted August 5th, 2008 10:12 AM IP  My name is Karla I live in Maryland and my due date is Jan. 5 ,2009. So I'm about 18 weeks now.
This is my second child. I also have a 9 year old and I am on 60 mg methadone. I do not use any other illegal drugs or alcohol but I too am having a very difficult time with smoking. I kept saying I'm going to quit but it's very difficult. Especially when my boyfriend smokes too. He said he'll quit if I do but I haven't been able to yet. I do eat very healthy and try to make up for the fact that I smoke by eating extra healthy even though I know it doesn't excuse it but it's just so hard to quit. I'm so worried I'm hurting the baby and my life is so stressful it seems to make it even more difficult. My BF and I are living in a hotel right now and we just lost our car so times are tough right now. I know it's no excuse but I'm going to keep trying. I am so glad I found this website. I go to the library and get online a couple times a week. My whole family is out in California so this site makes me feel less alone. My 9 yr old is with my Ex so all I really have is my BF so knowing you all are here is a life saver.
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stacymuise Member Posts: 99 Registered: Feb 2007 |
Posted August 8th, 2008 01:10 AM IP  welcome karla. i am due arond that date also. i wish i cold brag too about being a super-healthy eater....i find the "morning" sickness ( nausea all the damn time) makes it harder to not crave the starchy stuff that makes an upset tummy feel better ....maybe i will start to overwhelmingly crave salads and broiled salmon or something like that....right..... stacy
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Jessica1381 *SUPER MODERATOR* Posts: 1215 Registered: Mar 2008 |
Posted August 11th, 2008 09:24 AM IP  Welcome Karla! Keep your head up things will turn around for you! As for the smoking thing.... oh God, I struggle with that and I am having some complications due to my smoking... well most likely due to my smoking, and yet I still have not quit. I started a thread on here called "worried again" all about the smoking thing. Feel free to read it and post there too. Welcome again. Stay in touch! -jessica Jessica Jensen,CSAC, CMA
Primary Pregnancy Support Specialist
Certified Substance Abuse Counselor
Certified Methadone Advocate
Certified Hepatitis C Basic Educator
Member of NAADAC, AATOD & MOAR
testing for CADAC1 in June 2010
Jessica@MethadoneSupport.org
1-860-798-5785
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