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 Posted May 14th, 2010 01:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I'm prescribed Gabapentin by a doc for what is believed to be multiple sclerosis and noticed one day not long ago when I had taken far more gabapentin than I should that I had forgotten to take my Sunday takeout dose and the gabapentin kept all of my withdraw symptoms from showing up for that day.. Typically I begin hitting withdraw after 23 hours. My methadone dose is low at only 25 mgs
I also know Gabapentin is like most drugs in that the body gets used to it, but just wondering if anyone else has ever taken gabapentin or not and if so did you find the same to be true as I did?
If I believed a high dosage of gabapentin could stop withdraw I would quit methadone in a heart beat, but that's a huge risk to take and I would need to get that high of a dosage cleared through my doctor.. I want off of methadone more than I want to breath.. I HATE dealing with the turds at the clinic I go to and in fact almost swatted my so called counselor over the head with my cane today, but managed to keep my anger to just yelling at her stupid ass instead.

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 Posted May 15th, 2010 02:28 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hello Unlegendary,
Welcome to the boards, but obviously you have been here before, registered with a different user name I'll take it? Anywho I have had a pretty good amount of experience with Gabapentin a.k.a. Neurontin. They are used to treat nerve damage related pain, and recently have been rarely prescribed for anxiety. You notice the drug name starts with GABA, which are the receptors that benzodiazepins work/attach to. So I dont know the Pharmokanetics/Science behind the drug but if you aren't tolerant and take several hundred milligrams you will get a benzo type feeling that I really grew to enjoy (relaxed, sleepy, etc.). But the thing is if you are going to use them recreationally, tolerance builds super fast and if you want to still enjoy the recreational effects you shouldn't use them more than twice every two weeks or once a week. I have used Gabapentin to help with Oxycontin withdrawals before and let me tell ya, it made the kick/withdrawals easier. They can be used to ease a benzo withdrawal, since they both work with the GABA receptors. I guess there is a less is better rule with this drug, I am not quite positive about this but you will get the same effects from 300 mg. as you would with1200 mg. (that's considering you take those amounts all at once. I have studied them on-line, I suggest you do the same, there is a lot of information out there on the web on this drug and I highly reccomend doing some research. Oh yeah the reason your dose held longer, or you forgot to dose at your normal time is because gabapentin synergizes/enhances the effect's of some opiates/opioids and some other drugs also (Obviouslly I don't remember my research 100%, but I know I sure liked them. I remember some girl on Bluelight or erowid was saying 600mg gabapentin= 2 mg. of Klonopin. I think the Pharmaceutical company claims they are non dependent pills, but people were blogging going through Neurontin withdrawal after a year plus of daily use. I hope that helps you some and good luck jumping off at 25 milligrams (I read your other post). In my opinion I would taper down to a much lower milligram, if it was me I would taper to 1 mg. (but that's me and my opinion). Seriously though good luck getting off. Blessings, -Mick

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 Posted May 15th, 2010 11:18 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Interesting Slick...never heard of that comparison with Klonopin.

I take 4 mg Klonopin a day and it does help physical withdrawal slightly but it doesn't help with the mental part at all except for ease anxiety and insomnia, but then again my body is pretty immune to Klonopin after 11 years.

I guess anxiety is physical and mental...Kind of a deep subject.


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 Posted May 15th, 2010 01:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Wow Mick! Very interesting info! Once upon a time, a long time ago, I seem to recall being on Gabapentin. I have & have had lots of nerve damage. About a yr. ago, I had one dr. put me on Neurontin. I wasn't able to put up w/ the side effects that I got~~wanting to sleep all the time. I also take Klonipin, but a smaller dose. What's so interesting to me is that in the last few weeks, I have heard different ppl talking about being on or starting Gabapentin. I had no idea either that it was the same! But I've learned too that I need to spend a lot more time researching meds.I've been on MMT so long that for me it's been the best anti-depressant I've ever had, & the other meds, well, I guess I didn't think of looking them up. My fault for thinking a dr. would warn me of side effects! I just had a VERY scary incident with a recently Rxd med....Pristiq. So, if anyone is on it, please check it out! I only know what it did to me, & we are all different in so many ways, including how we react to meds. So thanks so much for all of the info!
Also welcome to MSO, Unlegendary. Hope you are able to resolve your methadone issues! I'm on my own taper, but of course, that is what this forum is, concerns Detox/Taper!

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 Posted June 29th, 2010 03:30 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I used to take Neurontin in the early stages of my pain management and was up to 1600mgs a day w/no relief. It was originally given out for Fibromyalgia before Lyrica and Savella came out. I hated it and hated getting off it, but I hate being sleepy and tired and sometimes I would shake from it.

Now that I take Klonopin, I dont notice those same effects. I take 2-3 mgs per day. I dont want anymore than that. One habit is enough for me and now being ona benzo makes 2...and who knows whats next. I also am depended on lyrica (its a class 5 narcotic for nerve pain relief) The side effects are horrible from that drug and i dunno if any of my other meds are that way. I must do some research on all my meds combined. I know six of the 9 are sedating meds. sucks!!!! Being tired all the time on top of fatigue from the illnesses is horrible IMO.

Great to have you here ULegendary. Gotta go and get my legs back higher than my heart. h ave them wrapped tight with the boots on. Hope some of this swelling goes down soon I feel like i am going to explode..LOL

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 Posted June 30th, 2010 01:23 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Actually, now that I re-read this post, I was on Neurontin for a while, with a lot of difficulty at 1st. Wanting to sleep all day long & into the night! I had a difficult enoough time for too long a time I just weaned off, quickly!
My biggest complaint w/ methadone is definitely not the m'done. It IS definitely the short, tight, chain, & some of the absurd & arbitrary rules. I admit my clinik has become much easier on some of their own policies, & that's due mainly to our director. Getting off topic here, but if you really want & are able to get off of methadone, then why not taper off? I can understand if the pain level is too great, but even 25mgs. is a pretty low dose. If it holds you & keeps the pain at bay , then stay on it. Without knowing where you live, or that it even matters, but if you are in an area that has pain mgmt clinics, & hopefully the kind that will treat with medications & not just shots of cortisone(yuk!) it may be a thought.
Any way that you go, I do wish you the best, & hope you find a resolutin! take care

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 Posted July 5th, 2011 01:30 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I have been on a taper and I have to admit it has been fairly easy i do take Gabapentin for diabetes and have severe nerve pain in feet and back and i have noticed since tapering that the pain got worse in feet and upped gabapentin but have had (knock on wood) real feelings of WD from my taper. Thanks for sharing this

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 Posted January 9th, 2012 02:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well it just happens that I am on a methadone taper right now, and I have a bottle of gabepentin, I was prescribed it for pain but found out it was good for mood stablization, and anxeity. I started using it 300mgs 3 times a day, and it didn't do much, but when I took say 6 300mgs cap all at once it helped alot. I also just took 6 about an hour ago because I was feeling nauseous, and it took that away, and I am also in a better mood, as far as the anxeity goes it sort of makes you a bit tense, but I also feel I can handle any situation, it makes me feel more confident, and assertive.

Hope this helps, please let me know if anyone has similar results.

Thanks from Dave :-)

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Registered: Feb 2012
 Posted February 14th, 2012 10:55 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I actually just went off gabapentin (aka neurontin) about two and a half months ago. I had been on it for 4 years for nerve pain associated with chronic Lyme Disease and it seemed to help the pain in conjunction with methadone, but I never did take it by itself. Now I am in remission and tapering off methadone but my pain management doctor wanted me to go off neurontin first for some reason. I had nasty withdrawal symptoms that lasted a total of two months. They were different from methadone withdrawals. They were more physical and neurological. I'm past that now though and while I don't regret taking gabapentin, I just wish I had known about the withdrawals so I would have been prepared before my doctor took my off of it.

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