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cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted November 21st, 2005 06:22 PM   IP              I actually hate even having to tell you all this, my step-daughter is using again. She had initiated a 'review hearing' to regain custody of her children due to 'doing so well & staying clean'.......well at the hearing the Child Services people were adamant that she not regain custody at this time. They bought the Head Toxicologist in to testify regarding her urine tests: July, August & September were all clean....I told you she was doing well....all 4 tests in October & up to the day before the hearing were all "failed" - 1st 2 were diluted, next 2 showed Opiates & 1 of them also showed Cocaine. All this while on 120mg Methadone a day!! I must say, hubby & I were not even angry at her, well he was for a couple of hours, am just so damn disappointed. I thought she was doing so well. Well, anyways, the children now have had to move out of their home & in with Grandma Helen (who is Alex's mom & grandma to the younger child), and neither Alex nor Maria are allowed to live with them, only visit. Oh yeah, his drug tests were all clean except for the day before the hearing when they were called to go take a test before 1pm & though they were together in my car, he didn't bother going in & came back later around 5:30pm. Since they didn't have those results nor had heard different, they are assuming it is 'hot' so he can't live with the kids either. Though they did relent a little & agreed if his results from then & that day both prove clean, then he could live with them at his mom's. Well she agreed to enter a rehab & after some "dilly-dallying" both her parents took her there & checked her in last Thurs.night. She did have to drop her methadone down to about 60mg which put off entry till the monday, but managed to dawdle till Thurs. Since she entered, we have really been looking at everything for the last month or so, talking with the boyfriend & his mom, and realizing how much she has been lying to all of us. Am kinda glad in a sick sort of way, that she was lying to everyone & not just us, kinda made me feel relieved...weird, huh? Anyways, I don't know what the hell to think or believe anymore, I had really supported her with this Methadone Treatment, but now, I just don't know anymore.... She told her Dad that she wanted to stay "as long as it takes" & was talking numbers of 150 days etc, she told her mom that she's staying 2 weeks till after the next hearing which is pretty much where she is going to lose custody of the kids for quite some time. Am thinking here that she is under the belief that if she is in a Rehab then they won't take away custody, so she's planning on leaving the next day as though that will make all this go away!?? I have pretty much stopped trying to think about how or why she comes up with these thoughts. Besides, the hearing has been postponed to much later in December, according to our lawyer, as one of CPS's expert witness's can't make it. So, as the heading suggests, we are back on the roller coaster ride of emotions tearing us apart!! We pray & pray & pray........At least we know that for right now, she is in a safe place & can't inject something that will kill her, so we are determined to have some peace this Thanksgiving.....damn it!! LOL, just kidding. Alex (the boyfriend) called hubby on Sunday to ask him for help getting him into a Rehab, he has no insurance, and he has decided that he needs one. So we told him to contact his counsellor (a drug & alcohol counsellor he sees from time to time), who could probably give him all the info he needed since he's on disability..........surprisingly, he called hubby again this morning & his counsellor helped him apply for a public assistance insurance that a local (good) Rehab takes & hubby's brother is very good friends with the director who was going to help Maria's insurance "issue" go away, but she didn't want to go to that place...never asked why...So Alex seems determined to go to rehab & re-build his life, as he says. And on & on it goes................................................
Marot Poster Extraordinare Posts: 1218 Registered: Oct 2005  Posted November 21st, 2005 07:20 PM   IP              I don't blaim you for being "Glad", and I don't think it"s in a sick sort of way. when we find answers to our dilema and can work FROM THERE it gives us a starting point. I can't imagine all you have been through since this whole ordeal started but it seems as both of them have reached their limit as far as empathy and trust are concerned , and now they have to do the work, for themselves and FOR THE KIDS.Keep us informed. I do not know your whole story as I am new to this site. But you will be in my thoughts and prayers. Love , Marot
Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *ADMINISTRATOR*     Forum Queen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posts: 3247 Registered: Jan 2005  Posted November 22nd, 2005 04:21 AM   IP              Awwwwww.......so sorry to hear this, CC. I've NEVER been one to say "I told you so".....but do you remember awhile back I had some suspicions? I can't recall now what it was......but something you said made me think she might be using? I know it's hard......but TRY to remember that it's nothing personal and that relapse is part of recovery. Sigh....us opiate addicts do NOT have great track records and sometimes it takes many tries. Remind me, cc......how long has she been on MMT again? I'm not so sure that I would have tapered her down so fast.......let's hope she doesn't leave there before she's good and used to that fast taper! Have a peaceful Thanksgiving and let us know as it goes! smooooooch.......Carol CAROL SHOLITON President/CEO METHADONE SUPPORT ORG. http://www.MethadoneSupport.org Carol@MethadoneSupport.org COME CHECK OUT OUR MAIN WEBSITE!!!!
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted November 22nd, 2005 08:11 AM   IP              Yeah I know, Carol, you were right, you did have some suspicions, but I certainly didn't want to entertain them.....though just recently as I was dropping off the kids 1 night she & I were talking & I noticed her face & commented that it looked like shit....not quite those words but close, she was instantly defensive & says "I was just crying! I have no make-up on!" & I touched right on her face where 2 sets of what appeared to be scratch marks were & told her "No, these I'm talking about"...anyways, when I got home I told the hubby about it. I know it sounds rude, but quite frankly, with Maria, it is the only sign I can recognize with her, that & what I am slowly learning is another sign, is that she's always claiming to have fallen asleep......the other weekend was the last one she had with the kids before entering rehab & had told me all these plans she had for her & them, so each day she calls me to apologize for not coming up to see them as "she fell asleep".......for 3 days!?! After the disastrous hearing, hubby was pretty angry over lunch & I was not, just really disappointed, I simply stated "She's your baby girl & she's real sick, that's all there is too it".....he calmed down after that & also mentioned some advice he was given years back when he took a friend to rehab & later an ex-wife to rehab, they told him "to keep them f*cked up, they're going into detox anyways so why fight it? You just get them here, we'll take care of the rest" so we did. I actually think this was the 1st time Maria felt relieved, she knew that we knew she was using, yet we never said a word about it in a "reprimand" kinda way, & she came up & cleaned our cabin so we gave her the usual amount of money, knowing full well what she was going to do with it. You know, its hanging over her head that in x-number of days she's going to detox, these last few days were I guess like a 'last hoorah', she was adamant about going & relizes that this is the only thing that will cast a positive light on her case for regaining custody of her kids....we just pray that something positive will come of it all. We also prayed nothing bad would happen to her & that we could get her to the rehab which hubby did on Thurs. Oh to answer your question re MMT, she was on it 6 months, I think, or there abouts anyways.....it all seems like so long ago!! She had been doing really well & I wrote here about it, I also told her too, how proud we were of her & the remarkable turn-around that she had accomplished, her drug tests for July thru Sept were all clean....the guy didn't go back any further which is why I just quote those months. Now I have a question: Why did she start using again while on MMT? If Methadone works so well, what made her use while on it, (she was on 120mg) after been clean for some months? If it is supposed to block the cravings, why did she use? If, as she claims, you don't get high even if you did use due to Methadone blocking the receptors, why would you even bother? Is it (as I suspect) that MMT is like any other treatment (rehab etc), it only works when the person wants it to work? I'm so tired of all this, I'm so tired of the lies, I'm so tired of seeing our little baby grandchildren having their lives disrupted again & I'm so tired of the constant worry that Maria will die........................it truly is exhausting.
Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *ADMINISTRATOR*     Forum Queen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posts: 3247 Registered: Jan 2005  Posted November 25th, 2005 03:19 AM   IP              CC........I KNOW it's exhausting.....wish I was close enough to give you a hug right now......how about we do a quick cyber hug? Now for your questions......and I KNOW you aren't going to want to hear this...sigh. Cc......it took me THREE YEARS of being on methadone before I finally stopped getting high. I stopped as soon as I found out that I was pregnant with my first and ONLY child when I was 40. Otherwise......who knows? Your SD was in the BEGINNING of her recovery at only 6 months. I can tell you how *I* felt. I had used opiates since the age of 13......but I didn't use IV drugs until I was 37 years old. At my clinic one has to be using for a year......I lied at 6 months of using IV drugs because I knew I couldn't handle another 6 months of "running" out there. CC.......I KNEW as much as I loved opiates.....that if I ever used IV drugs that I would be off and running.........and boy was I. But I used them for such a short while that I really didn't have it out of my system. When I say that.....it includes not just the "high"......but everything.....the entire lifestyle!......going out and copping......coming home and preparing it.......and yes......the syringe and injecting it. I even felt like a rebel......this "nice Jewish girl" from a "nice family".....and I had this dirty little secret. I always felt the dope.....even thru the methadone. Wasn't on more than 65 mgs at the time. I can't recall, but I think your SD is alot younger than me? (50) Ask her sometime, CC.......ask her why she keeps using......you ever talk about it? DON'T let it be her "dirty little secret"......take the romance right out of it! She knows that you have always stuck by her......don't stop now, Cc......but DO tell her how disappointed you are.....let her know that you are hurting.......her father too. I hope some of this helped, sweetie! Let me know if you ever feel like talking on the phone sometime. I get free LD and would be happy to give you a call anytime! smooooooooch........Carol CAROL SHOLITON President/CEO METHADONE SUPPORT ORG. http://www.MethadoneSupport.org Carol@MethadoneSupport.org COME CHECK OUT OUR MAIN WEBSITE!!!!
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted November 27th, 2005 03:56 PM   IP              You're so wonderful Carol!! Thanks. Hubby just called me now to tell me she has checked herself out of rehab!!!! Jonesing, I'm sure, since she's only just finished detox...she went in on 17th Nov, so what's that, 10 days? She's such an asshole, so frigging selfish & I gotta say, this is all just so damn self-indulgent!!!!!! Like, gee, poor Maria, having a 'rough' week so just F-it all??? Never mind that she's harming her children!! Just, wo is me!! She sucks. I'm so fed up with all this. Why the hell don't Childrens Protective Services call the cops & have her arrested? Isn't using Heroin illegal? Aren't you supposed to be penalized when you break the law? What the F...?? OK, if you're wondering, I'm "officially" pissed. I wish I could have her arrested right this moment.....don't ask me what for, but surely they could arrest her for something!! Oh, and don't ask me what good it would do, since I haven't a clue, but I certainly feel like hurting her back right at this moment & that's all I can think of. I have encouraged the hubby to call C.P.S. since f-her, she doesn't give a shit about those beautiful kids, why the hell should they continue to be exposed to this bullshit. Next we'll hear she's selling them to feed her self-indulgent drug habit. This just all sucks. Edited to add: I've calmed down somewhat since typing the above. Venting certainly helped. It's just so damn disappointing & again the kids will be disrupted, as I'm sure that there is going to be more 'fall-out'. This is all just so frightening & disappointing & it seems that she is determined to continue being a drug-addict. I think she is more embarrassed about having the kids removed than anything. Which just leaves me stumped about where we've all been this past year & what road it is that we are heading down. [Edited by cc]
Marot Poster Extraordinare Posts: 1218 Registered: Oct 2005  Posted November 27th, 2005 10:45 PM   IP              First of all. Where is she going? If she is depressed as I was after detox, You need to go to a safe haven where you cannot cop drugs or hurt yourself. With me It was my sons house. Not even my own. My husband wanted more out of me than I could give him at the time . I know this sounds very selfish on the part of the addict, but if we truly love them we will do whatever it takes as I know my sons did for me. I was A SELFISH SELF ABSORBED JUNKIE AT 48 YRS. OLD and only the love of my family and friends got me through it. PLEASE!! don't give up. Think of the good times in your life with your daughter. That's what my sons tell me still made them love me. Think of how much you want a normal life for your grandbabies. I know your strong. I've read your posts. Keep on trying . You will be happy that you did. Love Marot
Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *ADMINISTRATOR*     Forum Queen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posts: 3247 Registered: Jan 2005  Posted November 28th, 2005 02:27 AM   IP              CC.....you are ALLOWED to be royally pissed.....but like Marot said....don't stop loving her and at some point when she comes back around....tell her that you will CONTINUE to support her if she gets back in recovery. I have to tell you, C....it did scare me when you told me they detoxed her by 50% so fast! It was almost like a set-up to fail. In a perfect world.....*I* would have liked to have seen her stay on methadone for a much longer time. She was doing really well.......sigh....just too damned fast! Take care of YOU too.....willya? smooooooch.......Carol CAROL SHOLITON President/CEO METHADONE SUPPORT ORG. http://www.MethadoneSupport.org Carol@MethadoneSupport.org COME CHECK OUT OUR MAIN WEBSITE!!!!
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted November 28th, 2005 08:25 PM   IP              Yeah, I know, I know.....I'm just so incredibly sad for her, that she is so hooked on this stuff that it over-ride's the needs of her own children. They are such sweet little pumpkins & I know that when she's sober she would die for them, but those times are so long ago it seems to get harder & harder to remember them. Maria & hubby got together today & in the end she has agreed that the kids should live with us for the next year or 2 or whatever, until she has a track record of staying clean. There has been some recent allegations of mistreatment of the kids by the boyfriend's mom who, I think, is losing it & burnt out. I don't know just how true the allegations are, our 6yr old grandson was crying to hubby on Sunday that she curses at him & is mean to him & wanting hubby "to fix it"....that was really sad to hear. Maria made some claims too, but that is taken with a grain of salt, though I think it may very well be true which is why she wants them to come with us. Its all so sad. And a pain in the butt because I have to "child-proof" my house, LOL, which basically means HOUSE WORK!! Aaaaagh!! LOL. Anyways, we have decided for now that we will just concentrate on the kids' well-being, since our daughter is an adult (25) & seems determined to go her own way on this......We know that we can't force her to 'recover', though boy I wish we could, LOL.... Our job as grandparents is what is required now. So that is where we'll concentrate our time, perhaps just to keep our own sanity!!
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted December 13th, 2005 08:34 AM   IP              Here's her latest. I guess we have come full circle as these were the types of emails we recieved for months beginning at this time last year, nothing has changed after-all. The bottom line is "give me money on demand or I'll write this abusive shit"????? Like receiving this is going to want to make one reach into their pocket & throw hard earned money at you?!! From: Maria Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:14 PM To: Anthony (Dad) Subject: ????? So, I've called and left multiple messages what's your deal. I asked you about two weeks ago that we needed to talk because I was ticked off and nothing, you mentioned a fax i called again, nothing. I asked you to please let me clean or do something so I can Santa shop...nothing, as well as Devon and Santa's workshop Helen wrote a check out and it bounced but aleast he was able to get stuff he was so upset when i got to the school to help with the workshop. The main thing that gets me is that you tell me to let you know if i need anything for the kids and than you ignore it. Maria hasn’t been around, we have both left messages & she doesn’t return them, she called twice, both times for money since she spent all of hers buying Heroin, her Dad said “NO”. Though he did give her $200 last time he saw her “for the kids”. She also asked for a fax machine, which he ordered & which arrived at the office the same morning this email arrived. Because she puts her money up her arm, apparently we’re supposed to pay for everything else, even though Helen is the legal guardian & receives assistance for the kids!! She did show up unexpectedly with a complete stranger & wanted us to let her take the kids to a birthday party they had even though it seemed she was high. Her dad said “No”, as its against the rules from Children & Youth, she’s not allowed to be around the kids unsupervised. So as was originally planned, I drove the kids to Helen’s who was taking them to the party….Maria never showed up at the party & no-one saw her again till she showed up at her mothers late that night who then called Anthony freaking out about this stranger & Maria’s behaviour. They are not coming up there for Christmas. We have made arrangements with Helen to pick them up around lunch time on Christmas Day to spend a few days with us as we won’t be in next weekend (that’s our scheduled w/end), due to Anthony’s business commitments & travel. But i guess the best is the new emails that your wife is sending again. I have copies if you don't believe me. Yes, her Aunts contacted me out of concern due to Maria trying to hit up her 82yr old Grandmother for drug money. I responded with a very nice, heartfelt, response reassuring them that the children were OK & that they need nothing so don’t fall for any nonsense Maria may use as an excuse for taking money from them. All with Anthony’s OK. I respected the fact that you were happy despite that I among everyone else can see right though her, but you were happy so i kept face. I can't do it anymore. I'm not fighting or anything and this is why i wanted to meet with you and talk. She's not my family (on mommy's side) so no matter what she says to anyone it all comes back it's like she get s off on it. Hmmmm, last we spoke she said “I love you” & wished me a Happy Anniversary (that was on Saturday when I spoke briefly to her about forgetting to bring the vitamins in that I buy for the kids on Dec 10th)…………………….. But I guess that was fake. I guess too, when she told me that I am the only one who understands re the Methadone Treatment since I was the only one who bothered to learn about it & how much she appreciated it. Paidon shaid she hit her in the face and leg. That's not going to happen anymore and that s the end of that. She brought all this on by medling in shit that has nothing to do with her. she is not my mother and never will be i'm very close to getting a pfa on her so if my name comes out of her mouth something will be done because with out you she's nothing but a bar maid and you know that ever since she got the car for her bday the act went away. When she's not around you are yourself,but when she's there you are so fake and I hate it and i don't have to put up with it. I guess that 2 year old Paidon said all this about when I slipped on the ice carrying her on Saturday & was so afraid that she would get hurt, I grabbed her with both hands so landed right on my tail-bone with nothing to stop me & have been laid up in pain for a couple of days now, we also cancelled our dinner plans for our anniversary due to the pain of not being able to sit down! Though 2 year old Paidon could also have said it right after she told us that the scratch on her finger is from the"Black Bear" that bit her!!! Mind you, that is the same Bear that "bit her foot" a couple of months ago & “Nonno should shoot that naughty Bear”. But isn't it odd that (had it been true) these allegations are not at the top of her list of grievances, instead MONEY is at the top & allegations of abuse toward her child is buried 3/4 of the way down?? You should of read the paper she filled out for visitation at white deer run it was all bullshit after i had that meeting with my counsler they said she's my trigger and i need to stay away even if it means not talking to you, but if i truley mean anything to you you would put her in her place, but i know that won't happen and that's okay i'm use to it. I especially love this part, before she quit Rehab & upon check-in, the rehab gave both her parents a form to fill out before they were allowed to attend the “Family Weekend”….ie: Anthony & Donna. Since Anthony’s handwriting looks like hieroglyphics, he had me write it as he dictated it to me!! He also answered so honestly that we had to add 2 extra pages as space was limited. did you know she called helen and pretty much said that you guys are busy until the new year so the kids can't come up, but i guess something changed cause they went up. Devon was so excited to do the tree no one did the tree with him there Yes, I had the ‘audacity’ to call the children’s guardian & make arrangements to substitute our regularly scheduled weekend with the following one since we are unable to come to Pennsylvania that particular weekend due to Anthony’s business commitments & travel. We also had planned on decorating our Christmas tree with the kids, however, after Devon & Nonno set up the train & the tree, we discovered the train wasn’t working so Anthony & Devon were taking it downtown to get serviced when our truck broke down while Bill was driving it downtown & most of the day was spent getting it towed & into the Ford dealer for service. So by the time all that was taken care of, it was time to get ready & take the kids home. and i asked you if i could please have my christmas present early i've done that since devon was born so they can have a great christmas and you blew me off again. no what's sad the day i came up to the cabin when you were hunting granted you were fucked up [No she didn’t & No he wasn’t. Infact, since she hadn’t bothered returning any of our calls we hadn’t even had an opportunity to discuss with her that I had agreed to let her work at my home cleaning it for a wage. Nor had she bothered to follow through with it. Oh, and that was when she showed up high with some complete stranger wanting to take the kids to a party she didn’t go to, even though the kids went. but you were you. and than you wonder why i don't talk to you about things. again this isn't to be mean or fight but i have no other way of talking to you and i had to get it off my chest. well it's all you now Hhhmmmm, in between being able to call for money but not return calls, come up to our home whenever she wants, I can see why she has no other chance to “talk”. Oh, wait, maybe she’s abusing Heroin & her brain is having another melt-down!! [Edited by cc]
Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *ADMINISTRATOR*     Forum Queen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posts: 3247 Registered: Jan 2005  Posted December 27th, 2005 03:45 PM   IP              Whoa....this is one hostile kid, cc. I was blown away because I have seen you post so many times how proud you were of her......giving her all kinds of credit when she was doing well. Listen.....this is her disease talking, cc.....don't let it get to you. It also sounds like she's a bit jealous of the relationship you have with her daddy. Without knowing the parties involved, cc.......I would just tell you to BE CAREFUL.....sounds like she might do something to discredit you with her father. Sigh......so so so sad. What went on over the holidays? smooooooch.......Carol CAROL SHOLITON President/CEO METHADONE SUPPORT ORG. http://www.MethadoneSupport.org Carol@MethadoneSupport.org COME CHECK OUT OUR MAIN WEBSITE!!!!
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted December 30th, 2005 02:05 PM   IP              Well, after taking a day & 1/2 to calm down, hubby called the case worker from Children's Services & told them about the email & that he was extremely worried & that this is the behaviour that we see whenever she's using. In the end, Maria & Alex both failed drug tests & have had their visitation reduced to 2 hours a day with the kids & we've been asked to pick up the kids every weekend that we can. The case workers called us for permission to allow Maria & Alex to spend 4hours with the kids on Christmas day - we picked up the grandkids at noon on Christmas & they stayed till Tues.evening. They were so well behaved it was almost shocking! The grandkids enjoyed having them there which is what was important. The hubby is so 'done' with all this crap, he doesn't even want to see his daughter right now & is focusing solely on the children. The Childrens' Services people came to our place this week to "inspect" our house and she let slip that they "were having trouble" getting Maria to take a drug test that day..... She also mentioned that the biggest worry is whether or not the guardian (Alex's mom) would be willing to stop them from seeing the kids when they are "under the influence"........ We have a new hearing coming up in 10 days which the case-worker seems to be really prepping for, it seems that they are working hard at gearing up for this hearing...it's a follow up hearing from November where Maria had petitioned the court for her kids back & started using again from the same moment.....like they wouldn't check?? Anyways, this is the postponed 'follow-up'.
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted January 12th, 2006 11:06 PM   IP              The follow-up hearing was yesterday & pretty much they have Maria's number, everything is staying the same - the kids remain living with the other grandmother, Maria & Alex are only allowed to see them for 2 hrs a day...which she hasn't been showing up for regularly, and we continue getting them every weekend. This is apparently her last lenience with the courts, they have promised to remove her from the kids permanently in 60 days if she has any screw-ups & will be tested regularly. Since they cut Maria to only 2hrs a day with the kids, we've actually noticed an improvement in the little one's behaviour. She is such a disruptive influence on the kids it's actually disturbing. Her whacko mother came to the court too & immediately lied to the Master & was promptly removed, then we were also asked to leave the room but our lawyer was told to stay to represent us, which he did rather well, Maria told the court that she was angry with her father to which he responded that since he stopped giving her money she's being angry ever since! She also tried to cover her bad drug tests with some story that he promptly shot to pieces & educated CYS a little in the process. Meanwhile outside the court room the 3 of us were sitting there & I was just trying to be nice to her mother & commented that my other step-daughter (her older daughter) had called me the night before & really sounds wonderful......the fact that she called me was enough to send her into an absolute rage, I swear I had no clue, I was complimenting her daughter!! Next thing I see her face start twisting up into this weird contortion & she stands up & says "I want to ask you something - Is it true that you slapped Paidons' face"....I almost burst out laughing because it was simply stunning! Anyways, I just told her NO & then she went on with the other crapola that Maria had put into her email above...I mean verbatim, as though she was reading that melted-down crap as though it was in front of her. It was becoming comical & I did start to laugh & told her how funny this was, which freaked her right out, she was completely enraged. The whole time we were standing not 6 feet from the Phsychiatrist that CYS had bought there to testify against Maria if needed...he had met with her at their order & now here is her mother flipping out & they had heard the entire conversation since there were only 6 people in the hall, all of which were there for that hearing!! She stormed off yelling at me "I don't think its funny at all" all mad & angry. My hubby later said to me that it was a classic scene because I had no idea that I was setting her off....it took him a little while to figure out what it was that made her flip...it was that my step-daughter called me........her daughter. Oh well. I'll tell you, the both of us are really relieved that it's all over for now & the kids remain safe & Maria is about out of options (& people to blame) for why she is losing her kids & that her time with them is so restricted and the biggest blow to her & plus for everyone else, is that it is very clear that everyone is watching her, breathing down her neck actually..................Hey maybe it might wake her up....maybe. We're off to San Diego for a few days of rest & relaxation plus a little business for hubby but mostly fun for 5 whole days!!! I bought the kids tickets to see the Disney on Ice show with the grandma they live with for this weekend since we won't be able to be there, so that will make a nice break for them anyways.
Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *ADMINISTRATOR*     Forum Queen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posts: 3247 Registered: Jan 2005  Posted January 18th, 2006 02:18 AM   IP              wow.....what a sad scene, cc! It's like a vicious circle, isn't it? She gets high because she's upset about the kids and then she can't get the kids because she's high! btw.....this is a very familiar dance with us addicts. What's the FIRST thing we want to do when we're "hurting"??......yup.....go use! Course.....that's also what we want to do when we FEEL anything.....it's just a way of life.....a habit! Well....keep us posted! At some point, Maria IS going to hit her "bottom", cc....and will FINALLY surrender into recovery. I just hope like hell it won't be too late then! smoooooooch........Carol CAROL SHOLITON President/CEO METHADONE SUPPORT ORG. http://www.MethadoneSupport.org Carol@MethadoneSupport.org COME CHECK OUT OUR MAIN WEBSITE!!!!
dfox Posting Pro Posts: 644 Registered: Jul 2005  Posted January 20th, 2006 08:24 AM   IP              WOW what a mess, I thought i had it bad, this is so sad. I hope Maria get's the help she need's. She not only need's help with detox . Maybe she should get other help to. It seem's she might have other issue's to. That started this whole mess to start with. Just my opinion. But i'm not a Dr. I know what you are going through. I am glad you have a husband that is there to give you support through this whole ordeal. At least you know she need's to do something for her addiction. Gee i have no advise, i just wanted to tell you how brave you have been threw this whole thing. One thing to rememberis, the most important thing in all of the story are the children. I think that all the proper measure's have been taken care of to protect them. I am glad to hear that. God bless all of you and i wish you well cc. Love Donna Come check out my new support board.... Methadone and MORE!!!
cc Member Posts: 91 Registered: Apr 2005  Posted February 15th, 2006 02:45 PM   IP              The Latest Goings On: Maria has tested positive for drugs & Childrens' Services are dragging her ass in front of the judge this Fri a.m. & all contact with the children has been suspended. Infact on the order we recieved, the Master was crossed out & the actual Judge is who she's going in front of, and this guy is not only new, he is apparently real tough. We'll see just how tough in 2 days. Great. Just what the kids need, something else to upset them. Things have been just a little too quiet of late, something had to happen, it is just so unlike them to be this quiet..........................
Marot Poster Extraordinare Posts: 1218 Registered: Oct 2005  Posted February 15th, 2006 10:04 PM   IP              CC, It is beyond your control as you know. All I can tell you is to try your hardest to distance yourself from it, as you have done all and beyond what you could. after it is over then deal with the circumstances as they come. Maybe this sounds cold and unfeeling ,and I don't mean it to be. Just reality. We need to deal with reality and the fact that sometimes we can't change it. I am backing you though 100% in your love for the little ones as I can truly relate having grandkids of my own. If anything was to happen to my son or daughter in law I would want them kids in a heartbeat!!! Especially since my daughter in laws mom, even according to her ,would not be good for them. But, I'm not going into that now. Anyway, my heart goes out to you and stay in touch! Love Marot
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