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sapphire
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 Posted January 28th, 2014 07:40 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Where the heck id everyone? The board has been so quiet.

I hope everyone is OK?

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
shelly6906
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 Posted January 28th, 2014 11:03 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yes I know I haven't been around, sorry about that.I've been having a lot of stress in my house in the past few weeks !!! 21yr old drama !!! Is one, the other is cars breaking down!! My oldest son has moved back in he broke up with GF, she's giving him problems !!! they got an apartment together he moved out in January. February is coming around, and rent is due soon, he does not want to pay it which I cannot blame him. He is no longer living there! The problem is is that they signed a lease both names are on the lease. He has asked her to take him off the lease she is giving him problems of doing that, basically she expect him to pay his half of the rent up until May so she can stay there he even pays the gas bill my husband and I keep telling him to turn the gas off!!! so now Mommy has to step in I have to go and find out how we are going to get his name of this lease this is why I haven't really been around!!!
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sapphire
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 Posted January 29th, 2014 08:07 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Ugh, if both names are on the lease that could be problematic. Of course he shouldn't have to pay rent for somewhere he isn't living, and that is really awful of her to try to make him.

I can get that maybe she can't afford the rent on her own, but neither should he have to pay for somewhere he doesn't live.

He definitely should stop paying the gas bill as well!!

How are you, apart from the stress with your eldest?

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
shelly6906
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 Posted February 3rd, 2014 09:02 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Like you say ugh, lol, lol when it rains it pours !! We thought we had car issue solved this week but of coars a black cloud is hooving over me ?? Lol, lol !! Its so cold here in Cleve.oh it's killing our car batteries!!! My son and gf broke there lease !somewhat of a good thing but he is all depressed about having to pay remainder of rent until that apartment is rented out again. wwhile he was gone we gave his room to our middle son and my older son who came back is all upset about that, so now we have been working on the basement to give it to our older son and that's a nightmare!!! its a merry go round of stress in my house!!!! Lol, lol, lol !!!!!!
shell6906
   
mike9158
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 Posted February 3rd, 2014 12:30 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hi all,

Sapphire....my friend, I can't thank you enough for contacting me at my home
e-mail address. It is so sad to watch as MSO fades away into obscurity. When I think of the many years I've shared here and the wonderful people I have come to meet here, it almost brings tears to my eyes. I have always considered Carol herself as one of my true friends.

Still, I have to face reality....and reality tells me that Carol no longer has the money, the health, the strength or the means to push MSO forward into the future. In fact, it seems that many of us who have been associated with MSO over the years have fallen on severe health issues or have run into other obstacles that prevent us from being here on a regular basis.

I thought that if Sapphire and myself could be in contact via our regular internet e-mail addresses, or if we could hook up on Face Book, at least something good will have come from this sadness. And Shelly, the same is true for you or anyone here who wants to stay in touch. Because the bottom line is SUPPORT...and no matter what happens with MSO, as addicts, as human beings, we can all use support and friendship from one another. And who understands people like us, better than...us.

So to anyone posting, if you would be interested in staying in contact with me at michael_scott9158@yahoo.com, I promise you, I will stay in touch with you and will answer any e-mail I get. I have been told by my doctors that my Alzheimer's has advanced a stage and I am having a very hard time coming to terms with this, so naturally, I would actually look forward to staying in contact with my friends here, both past and present. And if it's not to be, I can accept that too. In that regard, I will wish everyone here the very best in the future and I would like to thank everyone who has helped make MSO something special in my life over the years. And whether we stay in touch on a regular basis via e-mail as friends or not, always know you can reach me at that address if I can ever be of help to anyone in the future.

In closing, I have no idea what my own fuuture holds as I am going down a path I have never been down before. I feel a bit like I did when I first started MMT back in 1998...scared, apprehensive but optomistic and hopeful...and hoping it doesn't hurt too much. It's like I told my children, I'm not afraid of getting older and I'm not afraid that this disease will limit my capabilities...I am afraid that this disease will end up making me irrelevent....and that is something I never thought I would be. I don't want to be looked at as just another old person with a disease taking up space in the corner of some room.

Perhaps that is why just sitting here helplessly and watching MSO...something I love and believed in so much....just watching it die this slow and stagnant death....it breaks my heart. Because unless something drastically changes, unless some miracle happens, MSO will die and become known as irrelevent....just like me.

All of you take good care and I wish you the very best.

Hugs,

Mike
   
sapphire
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 Posted February 4th, 2014 09:58 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
@Shelley - sounds stressful with your sons!! At least it's settled one way or the other though with the lease. Hopefully the landlord will rent the place out again quickly so he doesn't end up paying for months on end.

I suppose at least he can take solace in the fact he's not paying for his ex to live their on her own!! I know that would have pissed me off!

That might be a good way forward Mike, to set up an MSO Facebook page? So many people use social media these days that it might be really helpful for some people?

As far as money goes, what kind of expenses are incurred? I thought the site was free?
Agree though that something needs to happen as the site is so quiet, I think that if I wasn't posting it would just fizzle out right now.

I'm so sorry to hear about your diagnosis Mike. It must be incredibly hard coming to terms with it. I really admire you, as I'm not sure I could cope with it as well as you are.

You have your family round you, so you are never going to be looked at as 'an old person taking space'!

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
Finallyachance
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 Posted February 6th, 2014 08:43 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hello Mike and everybody...Mike I am really sad to hear you feel so sad about the site and Carol...Hangon all these forums go thru periods...we got super slow on the DAWG but things are picking back up....

I personally do not think the social media is the way to go people are and can be quite paranoid about the facts all laid out there for any of their family and/or friends to read etc...I was shocked I thought "closed group" meant if I posted it would only be seen there in that group well it was all over my pages and what everyone else on the forum had to say I can control what I say for others to read but not what everybody says so I start getting all these PM's from my family about the shame I am putting them thru etc...Zacs group fuss and fight all day about cats and dogs etc....Making the stigma and discrimination worse for us...I certainly don't want that there on my FB page for all to read...

We need to stick together you and shelly and anyone on here needs to come over to the dawg and I will make sure I come over here more.

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Wishing You Well

in Life, Love and Health, Finallyachance
   
sapphire
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 Posted February 6th, 2014 11:41 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I thought that although the FB pages appreared on YOUR feed, any posts you make don't show up on your Friend feeds, do they? I hope they bloody don't!! and I will be really pissed if they do!
You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
SlickMick
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 Posted February 6th, 2014 03:45 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well I'm Back on the Boards now!!! I will Really try to stay true to when I said that I will check in the Forums at least A Few times a week. I Love you all, this place is so Great & I have met so many Wonderful people on here who have helped me through all kinds of shit. I Love this MSO Family (As I call it). -Blessings
   
sapphire
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 Posted February 7th, 2014 07:12 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
So, I logged into my husbands FB account to see if as one of my friends on FB he could see all the traffic from the MMT groups that I am a member of and sometimes post in.

He could not se any of them, so I would think that means none of my other FB friends can see them either.

The only thing that did show up to all my friends was when I joined these groups they got an status update saying 'Sapphire has joined blah blah blah methadone group'. Which is not ideal if you don't want your friends knowing you have anything to do with methadone.

I do agree with @Finally that FB doesn't offer the same anonymity as the boards do and it's easy for people from your clinic to recognise who you are, as everyone is using their real names.

Also it may be difficult to discuss private matters as if people that go to your clinic are also members, they will know it's 'you'.

I'm on the fence a little about the value of FB groups, as I can see the benefit of them, but there are also major drawbacks too.

As the groups aren't as 'friendly' as the boards, you also get a lot in arguing too, and that is really distracting.

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
shelly6906
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 Posted February 8th, 2014 10:12 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Sapphire I did to thought about that fb, if others could see your post and so on, so I went on my home pc,(I have a smart phone do a lot of posting with it) went to my page didn't show any post but it did show that I joined a methadone discussion group, then went to my husbands fb like you did looked me up and on my page it showed I joined that group! So like you I don't want anyone like friends or coworkers wondering why I want anything to do with methadone !! So I went back and deleted that right off my home page ! I only went on it maybe 4 x's to look around but nothing never made me want to respond back to anything !! Now I wonder how many of my coworkers and friends saw that and wonder why that was on there ?? Oh well only way to learn is by trial and error!!!! And I'm glad to see that your back Mike, and still able to give us your wise wisdom, and support!! Hugs my friend !!!
shell6906
   
sapphire
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 Posted February 8th, 2014 12:18 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I didn't like that either Shelley. I don't really want it broadcast to everyone on my Friends list that I joined an MMT discussion group!

Granted there could be a million reasons why one would join such a group, but when the majority of people see one has joined a group such as this, they would all assume it was because you were on methadone.

When you have co workers and family that do not know you're in treatment, that could cause a lot of problems.

Having said that, some of the stuff in these groups is pretty useful, but a lot of times the useful stuff is outweighed by the misinformation, myth and people having petty arguments with each other.

One thing that really bugs me is that although people are asked not to use 'clean' and 'dirty' etc, they still do it all the time!

Another thing I have noticed is that people can be really judgemental. It's like 'well I'm in recovery and I'm doing really well so why can't you get your life sorted out', like some of them are looking down on anyone that is not stable when they're in MMT.

There but for the grace of God and all that......

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
shelly6906
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 Posted February 9th, 2014 08:26 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Your so right about the fb!! Being a place of judgemental people!!! Everybody knows everything, even though they have been in treatment for 2 weeks, and they think they can look down on others who are just looking for support!! To many verbal fights going on instead of helping and understanding !! But like finally a chance said, social media is the in thing now! One thing I know that I'm safe here from any thoughtless people I don't need fb !!! Any support or info I need will always be here!!! This site is way better then any social media site!!! I can always pm anyone if I real needed anything NOW!! And I know someone would get back to me ASAP !!!
shell6906
   
sapphire
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 Posted February 10th, 2014 07:57 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
What really put me off was the attitude of a lot of the people. They are really looking down on anyone who is either using on top of their script, or is on benzo's etc.

People go there looking for support, not to be judged by a load of people who think they are perfect.

There are some really cool people on the FB groups, but the idiots drown them out unfortunately.

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   
shelly6906
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 Posted February 10th, 2014 08:43 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yes your right !! It's sad that ppl don't think before they speak ! And don't realize how words can hurt !! And the ones that did have good to say were drown out by idiots!!! But that's social media for you!!!
shell6906
   
sapphire
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 Posted February 11th, 2014 08:08 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It's not just Zac's FB page either, it's all of the MMT ones on FB. A lot of the people are just either so judgemental or just repeat BS they heard at their clinic and try to pass it off as fact.

If you're new to treatment, having people tell you that this BS is fact could be really confusing.

I think the moderators try to do their best, and a couple of them are particularly good and really knowledgeable about MMT, but as so many people are posting in various different threads it's difficult to keep on top of it all.

You can email me at Sapphire@methadonesupport.org
   



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