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Peter Taylor
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 Posted August 27th, 2007 09:18 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Freemasons protect their own don't they...

A Freemason who stole nearly £50,000 from two Northumberland Masonic Lodges has been jailed. David Glass worked voluntarily as a treasurer for the Masonic movement as he plundered the cash to pay off his spiralling debts.
The former financial advisor stole just over £48,000 from the Bedlington-based Northumberland Provincial Grand Lodge and the Farne Lodge of Mark Master Masons between November 2004 and November 2005.
But Glass, of Spelvit Lane, Morpeth, was caught when fellow Masons became suspicious of the missing cash and began to investigate, Newcastle Crown Court heard. Glass, 55, was arrested and pleaded guilty to 20 charges involving theft, false accounting and using a false instrument on the day his trial was due to start at Newcastle Crown Court

From the Grand Lodge of Scotland

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A.T.Smith
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 Posted August 27th, 2007 06:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Gee, I wonder if he was expelled?!?!

That's just awfull.

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Jo Frank
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 Posted August 28th, 2007 01:37 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yes, he was. This was big news in the area. The anti's had a field day.
Jo.

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Peter Taylor
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 Posted August 28th, 2007 02:30 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Jo Frank wrote:
Yes, he was. This was big news in the area. The anti's had a field day.
Jo.


Which amazed me! After all he was prosecuted, sentenced and kicked out of the Craft! What else could we have done? Don't answer that..... or else the antis would have another crack at us!

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 Posted November 24th, 2007 01:42 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well I believe that there are gooad and bad in every aspect of life, but we never no that they are bad seeds until they prove themselves as such
  
pfeifco
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 Posted November 26th, 2007 08:14 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Firstly I must make it clear that I do not want to cause trouble here.
As a new mason, I truely want to understand what topics are permissable to speak of (write of) in the open (or in front of EAs and FCs) and what are not.

Here in this open and untyled post we see a discussion about the unmasonic actions of a brother and the theft of monies from a two lodges.

In a separate posting we saw discussion of the alleged unmasonic behaviour of a number of brethren in the H-----n lodge which may have involved the theft of lodge assets. That posting has since been moved to the tyled MM section of this forum. (And I have been personally been councilled to not get involved in debates regarding the H-----n affair.)

Now I do not want to discuss the merits, or details, of either case in this post.

I just want to understand why one is left for open discussion and the other has been tyled away.

Both discuss the (alleged) unmasonic behaviour of a brother or bretren. The only differences I can see between the two are that one has resulted in jail time (conviction) and has been repported by its own GL while the other is still an ongoing (unsettled?) issue and its GL has remained silent on the issue.

Again why is one a taboo subject and the other not?
   
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 Posted November 26th, 2007 10:48 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
The "H" stream was moved because.
a) Lack of factual knowledge of the subject, and
b) The posts were getting a bit personal and out of hand.
On the other hand the UK story is published and the facts are known.
We have never claimed that all Masons are angelic, we only strive for perfection.

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pfeifco
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 Posted November 26th, 2007 11:05 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
OK, that is kind on the lines I was thinking.

The UK case was settled and the H case was still up in the air, therefore; all the facts are not know.

Point taken.

Maybe once the dust has settled we can see the facts
   
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 Posted November 26th, 2007 12:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Also - the UK thing is an unmasonic behaviour of a person. After what he did (and as Ski said it was proven that he did it) - he is not a mason anymore! He can not be!
The H case is an internal affair of the Lodge and the Grand Lodge.
  
pfeifco
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 Posted November 26th, 2007 01:46 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Mmmm
   
blackdragon1
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 Posted December 24th, 2007 01:03 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Gents, let us not forget that stealing is not the exclusive action of any particular group of people...there are thieves everywhere...christain thieves, muslim thieves,thieves from different religions & faith. If the press was to publish articles on christain thieves for example, i am sure we would have many more stories to read.

Any thinking person would note that (1)This particular individual was caught by fellow Freemasons which indicates that his behaviour was unacceptable by Freemason standards. Unfortunately, the masses are generally not known for critical thinking anywhere in the world...hence more meat for propaganda....Though i am currently not a freemason, i dont buy a lot of anti-freemasonry crap i see everywhere

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