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canuck
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 Posted April 1st, 2007 12:03 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hello everyone...
I decided to start a rather "fun" topic - Anti-masonry (hold your "oooh, not again..." reaction, and keep reading).
Please put links or quotations of your favorite anti-masonic idiotism that you've seen online or read somewhere... I'm sure we can make a hilarious collection! Remember - post it only if you find it funny!!! Anti-masonry, conspiracy, witch-craft, "first time on television" and all that "truth" about us...

One of my favorites is this video (from Youtube):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cpwpQ_aKRk

If you have nothing smarter to do - read the comments that the author leaves in the comment book - she is... well... I'll keep that thought to myself, as I'm sure you'll have the same one... (hm... this already sounds like a conspiracy! )
  
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 Posted April 1st, 2007 04:40 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Nice post! What gets me is the "conviction" that these idiots have when posting there anti-masonic comments!
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 Posted April 1st, 2007 10:58 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Yes - if we were so powerful and we are ruling the world, then why would we let them publish all that junk about us...?!??!?!
  
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 Posted April 1st, 2007 11:58 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Br. Canuck,
A nice post and well intentioned, however, I wonder if it's wise to give those people any more publicity than they already have.
Even bad publicity is better than no publicity at all.
Perhaps it would be better just to ignore their idiosy or enjoy their stupid remarks without making them public.

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A.T.Smith
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 Posted April 1st, 2007 01:15 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Aw, come-on Ski. It's fun to share!

There's certainly no shortge of absolutelly Hillarious ones out there.

(unfortunately, I don't get around the net much, but I say bring em on!)
(Edited by A.T.Smith)

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 Posted April 1st, 2007 02:19 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Aw, come-on Ski. It's fun to share!



Well, maybe I'm being a bit of a grinch, but at least I didn't steal Christmas.

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Well, maybe I'm being a bit of a grinch, but at least I didn't steal Christmas.


Not yet anyways!

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Oh, come on Ski... u must have your own "favorite" anti...
  
S. T. Lehane
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 Posted April 4th, 2007 08:25 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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For a laugh, google: "Freemasons" and "lizard people" or "reptoids."

Of course, after I get my 33rd degree, I hope to join an "interplanetary initiatory lodge."

Sorry Bro. Ski. I couldn't resist.

PS: The website www.masonicinfo.com goes to great lengths to debunk all of the anti myths, including some really crazy ones.

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skiendhu
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 Posted April 4th, 2007 10:16 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
No need to apologize S.T., in fact I would happily join you in the interplanetary initiatory lodge but I can't drive anymore.
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S. T. Lehane
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 Posted April 4th, 2007 02:45 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I'd assume they have some kind of teleportation device or perhaps even a space ship. It's an awful long drive to Alpha Seti 5.

Another funny theory is the idea that the fashion model Heidi Klum is actually the leader of the Illuminati, (sending secret messages through her fashion accessories and her events calendar).

Then there's the "mind control satellites" and the "HAARP Antenna..." But I wouldn't want to give away any Masonic secrets.


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Mozard
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 Posted April 4th, 2007 02:59 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
This is a thread from a forum in www.catholic.net in Spanish: Member named Zaratustra claims to be a freemason in a Catholic forum

I'll translate one of the posts:

You cannot keep on being mason and catholic. If you have to leave Masonry, the problem is that the masons won't allow it and surely if you leave your life will be in danger, but even if you are killed it is better for you to get out and al least die reconciled with the Church as a Christian. By no means you can keep on paying the dues of following orders from the lodge.

Anyway I prefer one post I read about one year ago: a member of the catholic.net forum told the story of a freemason that, being just about to die, wanted to receive the sacrament of Last Unction, but there were two masons at the door of his house to prevent any priest from coming inside...
(Edited by Mozard)
   
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Great site Brother Lehane, some very interesting reading, some very funny.
Though I agree it is best to just ignore the kooks and conspiricists, it's hard to stay quiet in the face of such ignorance. Most of it is laughable at best, but it frustrating and unfortunate so many are willing to allow others to do their thinking for them.
  
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 Posted April 18th, 2007 06:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
> I hope to join an "interplanetary initiatory lodge."


As is depicted on the EA tracing board - ascending Jacob's Ladder to the lodge of the Blazing Star - associated - not accidentally - with 7 liberal arts and sciences

Cheers

Russell

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pfeifco
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 Posted May 2nd, 2007 09:02 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
My favourite 'anti' is Bill Schnoebelen.
Some of his claims are so ridiculous that the are FUNNY.

Here is a Bill rant on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWbUj3g4Qp8

Here is Bill's web site - Aparantly Bill KNOWS all and has DONE all
http://www.withoneaccord.org/store/Biography.html

Masonicinfo.com makes a good rebutal
http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm
   
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canuck wrote:
Yes - if we were so powerful and we are ruling the world, then why would we let them publish all that junk about us...?!??!?!

You could take that thought one step further...

IF there is a malign organization who's intent is world domination why, for ages, has Freemasonry been so frequent a target?
  
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My favourite 'anti' is Bill Schnoebelen.
Some of his claims are so ridiculous that the are FUNNY.

Here is a Bill rant on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWbUj3g4Qp8

Couldn't even pronounce Crowley's Name correctly, what a laugh......... must have smoked too much of that THC and drunk alot of 90 'degree' (Proof) spirits....... lol

Here is Bill's web site - Aparantly Bill KNOWS all and has DONE all
http://www.withoneaccord.org/store/Biography.html

LOL..

Masonicinfo.com makes a good rebutal
http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm


Nice.......

I know I posted this earlier in another area of the forum but..... I really like it if we keep this in mind it's easy to ignore the ignorant

from 'Turning The Hiram Key';


"No man truly obeys the Masonic law who merely tolerates those whose religious opinions are opposed to his own. Every man's opinions are his own private property, and the rights of all men to maintain each his own are perfectly equal. Merely to tolerate, to bear with an opposing opinion, is to assume it to be heretical, and assert the right to persecute, if we would, and claim our toleration as a merit.

The Mason's creed goes further than that; no man, it holds, has any right, in any way, to interfere with the religious belief of another. It holds that each man is absolutely sovereign as to his own belief, and that belief is a matter absolutely foreign to all who do not entertain the same belief; and that if there were any right of persecution at all, it would in all cases be a mutual right, because one party has the same right as the other to sit as judge in his own case - and God is the only magistrate that can rightfully decide between them."



Fraternally,
  
S. T. Lehane
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 Posted June 27th, 2007 10:03 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
This fellow here reckons that Freemasons are responsible for crop circles, seeing as we're "already familiar with using rope and posts to make precise geometric patterns in the earth."

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/telescop...cropcircle.html

It got me thinking... This is a great idea. I love the idea of having crop circle competitions between rival Lodges.


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A.T.Smith
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 Posted June 27th, 2007 06:25 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Rival Lodges?

Does that mean Masons vs. Oddfellows, or Valley vs. Kennilworth?

(because I think these Alberta Bro's may have us beat when it comes to crops!)

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http://www.mt.net/~watcher/telescop...cropcircle.html



Some people really have nothing better to do. And the lack of understanding regarding symbols says it all....
  
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Here in Spain it's been published a book named "Zapatero: three years of masonic government", written by a famous anti-masonic writer called Ricardo de la Cierva. He's been quickly called by César Vidal, who published three years ago another antimasonic book called "The Masons" and who runs the night program on the Church radio station COPE (the second in importance in Spain, after SER -close to Socialist Party-). The reasons held by de la Cierva to demonstrate that our president Zapatero is a mason are such as: "His masonic behaviour" -shit, it's like the "jewish behaviour" said by the nazis-, "His grandfather was a mason" or "He went to last year staging of The Magic Flute in Teatro Real".

I actually think that Zapatero is a pretty poor president, but the point is that there is a part of the civilised world called Spain where this nonsense and misinformation about Freemasonry can be done at no cost... and it's my country... argh.
   
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My condolences Mo.

It sure does seem like you've got it pretty tough over there!

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just cause ur a paranoid mad alu hatter doesnt mean the aliens rnt after u.. lol

but lets stay serious..
i wonder what percentage of anti-masons is christian and what percentage is not religious..

perhaps those figures can shed some light on the cause of their perspective on masons..

i also suspect many anti-masons r impressionable bored teenagers.. i remember when i was a teenager, word on the street was that masonry wanted world domination by working behind the scenes.. as a teenager, this is all very interesting untill u spot the flaws in reasoning.. apparently, some never do..

all this of course doesnt mean there r no conspiracies to rule the world 1 way or another.. look for those who use fear and violence and u found conspirators u need to worry about.. if masonry does what its supposed to do, none of those will be masons..
   
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all this of course doesnt mean there r no conspiracies to rule the world 1 way or another..


Leaving aside Alexander the Great, Hitler, Genghis Khan and Napoleon Bonaparte who showed their intentions quite quickly, most of politics seems to run on conspiracies of various sorts.

Fortunately humans are the only intelligent entities in Creation, else there might be quite a few more Earth-focused conspiracies.


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S. T. Lehane
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Fortunately humans are the only intelligent entities in Creation, else there might be quite a few more Earth-focused conspiracies...


...as opposed to?

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Fortunately humans are the only intelligent entities in Creation, else there might be quite a few more Earth-focused conspiracies.



Who ARE you and where have you taken Russell?!?!?!
   
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just cause ur a paranoid mad alu hatter doesnt mean the aliens rnt after u.. lol

but lets stay serious..
i wonder what percentage of anti-masons is christian and what percentage is not religious..

perhaps those figures can shed some light on the cause of their perspective on masons..

i also suspect many anti-masons r impressionable bored teenagers.. i remember when i was a teenager, word on the street was that masonry wanted world domination by working behind the scenes.. as a teenager, this is all very interesting untill u spot the flaws in reasoning.. apparently, some never do..

all this of course doesnt mean there r no conspiracies to rule the world 1 way or another.. look for those who use fear and violence and u found conspirators u need to worry about.. if masonry does what its supposed to do, none of those will be masons..



There are anti-masons and there are "masoniphobics!
"Anti-mason" is like saying "anti-smoking" and the like where you are simply in opposition.
I prefer to call some of these morons "phobic" as it better describes their hatred!

Regards, Peter
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Who ARE you and where have you taken Russell?!?!?!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

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