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 Posted March 20th, 2005 12:12 PM IP   
I know that the Torah is made up of
the 5 books of moses, which contain
the laws that were handed down
by G-D.
Are these books written the same way,
as in the Christian Bible. Nothing has
been changed ?
Would deep study into the Torah
help to improve ones life?
For myself not being Jewish, would it still
be a benifit?
Rick
Kenilworth #29 Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
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Dave Mavity
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Posted March 20th, 2005 12:27 PM IP
There have been changes to the Torah in english- it's really meant to be read in the Chaldean alphabet in which it was written. If you pursue Qabalah, you'll discover exactly why that is.
Look at it this way:
Kabbalah(Tree of Life) = a "schematic" diagram of the Torah
or,
The Torah= Kabbalah in text form.
Always worth reading. You can pick up some of cryptic, allegorical stuff, even in english, and studies will refer you to it, as well as the NT, often.
S&F,
Dave Mavity
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Dave Mavity
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Posted March 20th, 2005 12:30 PM IP
Oh, improve one's life?
That's a big, resounding, yes- if you approach it right.
Some say it actually improves one's understanding of Masonry 
S&F,
Dave Mavity
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Posted March 20th, 2005 02:59 PM IP
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Dave Mavity wrote:
There have been changes to the Torah in english- it's really meant to be read in the Chaldean alphabet in which it was written. If you pursue Qabalah, you'll discover exactly why that is.
Look at it this way:
Kabbalah(Tree of Life) = a "schematic" diagram of the Torah
or,
The Torah= Kabbalah in text form.
Always worth reading. You can pick up some of cryptic, allegorical stuff, even in english, and studies will refer you to it, as well as the NT, often.
S&F,
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Two quick points; The Torah (literally, the scrolls placed within the Arks in any Reformed, Conservative, or Orthodox Synagogue) is written by hand, in Hebrew, and takes years to prepare one scroll - if any error is made on the particular sheet (the scroll is made of sheets stitched togetler to form the long scrolls we see) that sheet is destroyed according to custom; no error in the copying of the Words of G-D are permitted.
The other is a bit of personal pique - my Hebrew teacher reiterated and emphasized "There is no 'Q' in Hebrew. The same Hebrew letter that begins the word "Kabbalah" is the same as begins "Kadosh" (though, there are two letters which form the "K" sound in Hebrew) - so spelling Kabbalah with a Q would mean that the SR needs to start calling it "The Council of Quadosh" or something equally silly.
The Torah is specifically "The Five Books of Moses" - the complete work is referred to as the TaNaCh - an acronym of Torah, Nevi'im, Ketuvim.
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Posted March 20th, 2005 05:53 PM IP
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Oh, improve one's life?
That's a big, resounding, yes- if you approach it right.
Some say it actually improves one's understanding of Masonry |
What is the proper way to approach it ?
The Torah is the foundation and
everything is built upon it...........
Study of each book in depth , and
try to include the lessons and laws
into my own life.
Is this the right track............
Rick
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Posted March 20th, 2005 07:29 PM IP
The TaNaCh is the foundation (Most use the term "Torah" instead of "TaNaCh", but what you will study is Torah, Prophets (Nevi'im), and Writings (Ketuvim). After that, then Talmud - which are explanations, expansions, and decisions of scholars made based on the TaNaCh (mostly Torah). The two major Talmuds are the Babylonian Talmud (made during the Babylonian Exile, hence the name) and the Jerusalem Tamlud (made about the same time, in Jerusalem). There are other materials as well.
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Dave Mavity
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Posted March 20th, 2005 10:57 PM IP
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Admin wrote:
What is the proper way to approach it ?
The Torah is the foundation and
everything is built upon it...........
Study of each book in depth , and
try to include the lessons and laws
into my own life.
Is this the right track............
Rick
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Please correct me if I'm wrong on this, Bro. David.
Within the context of the aspirant's culture, I believe.
I'm not Jewish( well, some possibility WAY back on my mom's side), not raised in that culture or religion, so approaching Kabbalah, for me, would not only be damned near impossible in finding a Rabbi, but in having the proper background to begin with- what with my background as an Anglican altarboy, and all. And then there's the tattoos...
That's why, I think, so many other esoteric arts have been developed around Jewish mysticism(Alchemy, modern Hermetics, Sacred Astrology, Esoteric Tarot...uh...Freemasonry)...primarily european innovations, based on an older form of mysticism.
I'll let you in on a little secret- Esoteric Christians(and I'm one) consider Jesus to be a top- notch teacher of Kabbalah- dabble with some of the concepts, and then re- read the NT.
Anyway, gentiles who take a Western Tradition approach to this, see it's inherent, basic Truth, we just "sneak up" on it from a slightly different angle.
S&F,
Dave Mavity
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